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Austin7
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PostPosted: Wed May 26, 2010 4:05 pm    Post subject: Help to identify classic car spoked wheel Reply with quote
I have been trying to identify the wheel shown in attached photo
Nothing sporty or special - probably run of the mill family motor marque

See the dimensions on photo
Diameter centre hub hole facing brake drum circa 3 inches 76 mm
3 stud holes
30 wire spokes
Tread width circa 2 7/8 inches 73 mm

Tyre - Pirelli Aerflex 4.00/25-15

Most internet sites seem to concentrate on high end racing wire spokes
Thanks to anyone out there who can put me on the track





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Salopian



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PostPosted: Wed May 26, 2010 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
In view of your username I assume it is not a Seven wheel although looks just like a set my brother has which were built up for a special. Anyway there is no provision for the locating stubs on the hub.
How about Morris Minor/MG M which are 3 stud 19" normally but I think this has a non standard rim??
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Austin7
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PostPosted: Wed May 26, 2010 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Salopian wrote:
In view of your username I assume it is not a Seven wheel although looks just like a set my brother has which were built up for a special. Anyway there is no provision for the locating stubs on the hub.
How about Morris Minor/MG M which are 3 stud 19" normally but I think this has a non standard rim??


Thanks Jonathan

You may be right about your Austin 7 suggestion - memory of detail is a bit faded since rebuilding one over 40 years ago !
I acquired this wheel from someone who had Bugatti, TVR and SS Jag - so A7 did not come immediately to mind - since I always thought they were 19" and had an elongated hole for hub studs and threaded studs.
I now find that many sizes were used - the three stud holes does suggest A7 - A7's had open and closed hubs I understand. See photo here of A7 wheel - mine has 9 pairs of spokes on the inside whereas the A7 photo has 12 pairs inside and has a hub which covers the brake drum whereas mine would sit flush to the outside of brake drum cover.

I've since had a look at photos of Morris and MG 1920's 1930's and now am moving away from Austin towards MG - but it is difficult to get a clear enough pic or resolution on this photo research - maybe MG M ? I suppose Standard, Riley and Wolsley are also possibles

I am hoping that someone on the Forum can confirm beyond doubt from better knowledge and experience than I have

Grateful for your helpful input

Colin


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Roger-hatchy



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PostPosted: Wed May 26, 2010 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I have a similar style hub.
I will do a measure tomorrow.

The photos show a front wheel on my DLM made by "West london wheels" they were a specialist wheel manufacturer and converter, I had a set of wheels made / converted for a VW Beetle from them in the early 70's

These wheels came with the car and take 4.50x17 tyres
Front axle and hubs from a 1935 Standard 9.
I also have a pair of Morris 3 stud wheels in the garage, I think they are 19 inch, the hub centre hole and stud spacing are different to mine

I'll get the ruler out tomorrow





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PostPosted: Thu May 27, 2010 6:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Just a guess but could it be a motorbike side car wheel and not for a car at all?
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Roger-hatchy



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PostPosted: Thu May 27, 2010 12:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
This is one of the front wheels on the DLM ( 1935 Standard 9 Axle and hubs)

The hubs, BTW the back plate and brakes are from a Ford 105e, well al 105e brake parts fit.




The wheel centre inner



and the wheel centre outer




The full wheel with tyre 4.50 x 17

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Austin7
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PostPosted: Sun May 30, 2010 9:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Many thanks for your help Roger - your wheels look very similar but the stud hole diameter and centre to centre is different

Good suggestion Steve but the source for this wheel was unlikely to have been involved in bikes - may still have been used for side cars

So I must still keep trying to come up with a final answer for this wheel
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PostPosted: Sun May 30, 2010 9:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I sold one of these a year or so ago. It was with a pile of Austin Seven Special parts. It has less spokes than the normal seven wheel and the hub looks the same as the old London Wheel Company (I think that was the name) products. Possibly a goody available for the 1950s special builders.
If I could have sourced another four I wouldn't have ebayed mine.
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