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captinbash
Joined: 03 Jun 2009 Posts: 79
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Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 4:47 pm Post subject: Viking Brakes |
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Hi, My Viking Voyager is fitted with 9" Lockheed drums, does any one know what shoes are compatible with them please Thanks. |
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Uncle Alec

Joined: 14 Jan 2008 Posts: 734 Location: Manchester
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Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 5:20 pm Post subject: |
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If they're the same as my Royale, the ones with the 'barb' on the trailing shoes to engage the reversing mechanism activating spring, then they are unique to the Lockheed reversing brake. I have part nos but they won't do you any good. I have just had mine re-lined by Brakes International of Rochdale for £40/4 incl. vat.
Note that they aren't the same as ones available for the Lockheed non-auto-reverse axles. |
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captinbash
Joined: 03 Jun 2009 Posts: 79
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Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 6:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Thanks for that, the Viking does not have auto reverse but the lever on the hitch that has to be put on manually, would that make them harder to find? |
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Uncle Alec

Joined: 14 Jan 2008 Posts: 734 Location: Manchester
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Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 7:26 pm Post subject: |
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No, easier. You may even find them off the shelf if you do a search, though there's no substitute for approaching a brake parts specialist with a set of shoes in your hand and asking "got any of these mate?".
You may still find the easy approach is to have your existing relined. |
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captinbash
Joined: 03 Jun 2009 Posts: 79
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Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 7:59 pm Post subject: |
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| Thanks Uncle Alec, I'll give it a try at our local parts factors. |
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rangerover125
Joined: 26 Jun 2009 Posts: 262
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Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 11:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Get you local motor factors to dig out a set of Morris Minor Brake shoes, you'll be surprised how many caravan companies used them |
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captinbash
Joined: 03 Jun 2009 Posts: 79
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Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 4:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Thanks rangerover125. M.Minor use 8" unfortunately or that would have made things very simple. |
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European Voyager
Joined: 09 Jun 2008 Posts: 24
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Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 10:15 pm Post subject: brake shoes |
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| Ive got a viking and my shoes were replaced by a company called Jim jack or james jack in cumbernauld, hope this helps. |
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captinbash
Joined: 03 Jun 2009 Posts: 79
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Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2010 5:11 pm Post subject: |
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Sorry for the delay in answering, I will look them up and give them a try.
Thanks
David |
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RotaryBri
Joined: 20 Dec 2007 Posts: 465 Location: Warwick
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Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 4:09 pm Post subject: |
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| Uncle Alec wrote: | If they're the same as my Royale, the ones with the 'barb' on the trailing shoes to engage the reversing mechanism activating spring, then they are unique to the Lockheed reversing brake. I have part nos but they won't do you any good. I have just had mine re-lined by Brakes International of Rochdale for £40/4 incl. vat.
Note that they aren't the same as ones available for the Lockheed non-auto-reverse axles. |
Alec,
Lockheed did not make a 9 inch automatic reversing brake. B & B Trailers wanted one but Lockheed said that the demand was not great enough to scale up their 8 inch brake so B & B used the standard Lockheed 9 inch and made their own conversion. B & B designed and manufactured the automatic brake system using the standard Lockheed 9 inch as the base. They modified the brake shoes accordingly to keep the unit costs down as much as possible. I was involved at the time and know this brake well. Some went out to customers without the shoe tips being hardened and I had to go out to Finland and strip and rebuild many brakes on Solifer caravans. I do not think that you will ever find any spares for these brakes as AL-KO threw out all B & B spares after they took over the company. _________________ Keep Torqueing,
RotaryBri
1976 NSU Ro80 |
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Uncle Alec

Joined: 14 Jan 2008 Posts: 734 Location: Manchester
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Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 4:26 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for that, and sorry for causing confusion. I was misled by a publication that came with the Royale entitled " AP Lockheed Reversing Brake for Caravans and Trailers Service Manual" (Publication ref. M8/1) which seems to describe and illustrate exactly the system on the caravan. However no size of drum/shoe is mentioned anywhere!
As the illustrated components look identical to those on the van I must assume that B&B made a replica system hopefully using Lockheed expander assemblies, adjusters, and maybe springs and coil springs/abutments, but with one-off 9" shoes, carriers, drums, and backplates.
At least all non-Lockheed bits are reconditionable if necessary. |
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