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Phill



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 1:57 pm    Post subject: End of analogue radio Reply with quote

As most of you are probably aware analogue radio transmissions are to cease in 2015. Has anyone thought about the implications of this with regard to the thousands of classic vehicles with older radio equipment that will be affected by this move? Is there some means of converting these older radios to DAB, or will it mean replacing the radio with a modern one that will be out of place?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 2:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There will be a number of options:
you could have existing equipment converted, there will be DAB radios which will transmit in analogue (much as mp3 converters do today) and when all the big boys move off analogue I'm sure there will be smaller stations willing to broadcast on the freed up airways.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

News tonight stated that the Government may extend 2015 deadline in view of the number of radios that will be deemed next to useless.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you aware that Digital equiptment uses more power / electricity.

So much for the "reducing carbon footprint" statements.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 5:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your so right Roger, I bought a dab radio a few weeks ago and was surprised that batteries last 12hrs on fm but only 4hrs on digital. On the same subject a friend is getting rid of his plasma tv because it uses so much electricity.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 8:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Buy one with rechargable batteries , 'pure' do them.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We spend most of our time reducing our oxide footprint Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 3:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whilst I'm still hunting for the ideal classic car, I do currently own a couple of lovely old vintage radios, and know of several people who own them, too... obviously, those will be affected.

Currently, the DAB signal where I live is awful. I can "seek" two or three stations at most (usually excluding much of the BBC), neither of which are to may taste, wheras I can pick up the entire local FM spectrum.

Neither has anyone come up with a decent mobile DAB platform for cars - there's going to have to be an awful lot better coverage by 2015 for that to work... which begs the question: Just how much investment are the government expecting in the infrastructure during a recession?

If they aren't available already, I'm assuming someone will make "re-transmitters" available (or at least they should!): A device capable of picking up DAB and re-transmitting it as an FM signal at low power (like those "wireless" iPod adapters for the car), so those of us who have retro/vintage radios at home or in our vehicles can continue to use them!

I like gadgets and new technologies, but only when they WORK. Make DAB work first, then I'll consider it as my primary radio source. Until then, I'm AGAINST the digital radio switchover.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't bother getting rid of your old radios just yet, if the big boys do pull out and stop transmitting there will be many smaller companies jumping into the void that will be created. Im sure it wont happen any way as its just such a waste of time! Even if it does all go and I have to eat my words I will just use my fm transmitter. For those who dont have one its a little gizmo you plug into your ipod (or tape player even) and you just tune you radio in so you can listen to what you want and theres no need to touch your radio....ok so the people with older non FM radios may be a bit stuck...but I still dont think it will happen!!

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think I heard recently that there will be no analogue switch off until a very large proportion of the public transfer to DAB. DAB is a very poor digital standard and should really be abandoned in favour of more recent ones. I can't see this transfer happening for many years and by then there may be pressure to drop DAB anyway.

As has been suggested there will always be alternative means to keep old AM or FM sets operational, so nothing to fear.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 1:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

scott_budds wrote:
... there will be many smaller companies jumping into the void that will be created.


I'm assuming the government are doing this with an eye to selling off chunks of the bandwidth for commercial use (though quite what application will want to use such a low frequency is unclear)... I forsee a resurgence of the "old fashioned" pirate broadcasters!
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 2:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It might be possible for rally organisers to set up their own temporary short range radio stations. If all these bands are freed up there are all sort of uses that they could be put too, not just for vehicle rallies but air shows, steam pageants ect. Just think how having a dedicated and exclusive radio station could enhance an event such as the Goodwood weekend
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi
doctorwhen wrote:
I forsee a resurgence of the "old fashioned" pirate broadcasters!


There are currently an estimated 150 pirate radio stations in the UK. A large proportion of these pirate radio stations operate in London,
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 7:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Penman wrote:
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doctorwhen wrote:
I forsee a resurgence of the "old fashioned" pirate broadcasters!


There are currently an estimated 150 pirate radio stations in the UK. A large proportion of these pirate radio stations operate in London,


I think there is one here in Southend. If you drive past a certain point of Southchurch Road with your car radio on it cuts out for a couple of seconds before coming back on. I think it's in a flat above a shop. Mind you it might have been closed down by now.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phill wrote:
.. Just think how having a dedicated and exclusive radio station could enhance an event such as the Goodwood weekend


Goodwood and other large events like the Pageant of Power have their own FM radio station for the duration of the weekend, usually providing commentary etc.

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