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Ray White
Joined: 02 Dec 2014 Posts: 6360 Location: Derby
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Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 10:41 am Post subject: rear lights |
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I can't seem to decide on which rear lamps to fit to my MG TC.
Originally there would have been no flashing indicators; just a pair of stop/tail D lamps - in which case separate indicators would need to to be fitted.
As there are apparently no D lamps available with an indicator facility I wonder if the similar sized pork pie lamps might suffice.?
I actually do have a pair of D lamps with a double contact bulb holder that I could fit but I would need to buy a set of amber indicators.
The alternative would be a pair of pork pie lamps with three bulb holders to give stop/tail/indicator combination. These, however nice they may be do look incorrect for the car.
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Rick Site Admin
Joined: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 22473 Location: UK
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alastairq
Joined: 14 Oct 2016 Posts: 1957 Location: East Yorkshire
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Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 11:18 am Post subject: |
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Can you get [get made?] an LED array that will fit inside the D lamp casing..to give you stop/tail and amber indicators? [They ought to show amber through the red lens]....I cannot find my D lamp example currently, so am not sure of internal size.
Alternatively, a standard domed indicator mounted on a rear wing..or alongside /above/below the D lamps...which would 'suggest' a typical upgrade modification conducted during the 1950's?
I would ,personally, refrain from these gucci shiny round lamps....[and especially the Model A repro lights...] _________________ Dellow Mk2, 1951 built, reg 1952.
Fiat 126 BIS
Cannon special [1996 registered. Built in 1950's]
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Ford Pop chassis, Ashley 1172 bodyshell, in pieces. |
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Ray White
Joined: 02 Dec 2014 Posts: 6360 Location: Derby
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Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 11:46 am Post subject: |
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Rick wrote: | I think I'd stick with the D lamps, and fit discrete separate indicators somewhere.
RJ |
AS I already possess the D lamps I am inclined to agree. The TC did have D lamps originally so it also makes sense from that point of view. |
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Ray White
Joined: 02 Dec 2014 Posts: 6360 Location: Derby
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Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 11:51 am Post subject: |
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alastairq wrote: | Can you get [get made?] an LED array that will fit inside the D lamp casing..to give you stop/tail and amber indicators? [They ought to show amber through the red lens]....I cannot find my D lamp example currently, so am not sure of internal size.
Alternatively, a standard domed indicator mounted on a rear wing..or alongside /above/below the D lamps...which would 'suggest' a typical upgrade modification conducted during the 1950's?
I would ,personally, refrain from these gucci shiny round lamps....[and especially the Model A repro lights...] |
My D lamps do not have a divider, instead they rely on a double contact holder for twin filament bulbs. I would need to insert a divider and add the orange LED.
An interesting suggestion. Thanks. |
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47Jag
Joined: 26 Jun 2008 Posts: 1480 Location: Bothwell, Scotland
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Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 12:17 pm Post subject: |
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Ray,
It might be worthwhile searching for a clear reverse lamp lens such as fitted to the immediate post war Jags. The lenses on my car are “D” but with a cutout for the lensholder screw. The are mainly white with a 1” red band for the tail lamp.
Perhaps Peter Scott could look in his Lucas catalogue and see if such a beast exists.
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47Jag
Joined: 26 Jun 2008 Posts: 1480 Location: Bothwell, Scotland
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Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 12:19 pm Post subject: |
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Ray,
It might be worthwhile searching for a clear reverse lamp lens such as fitted to the immediate post war Jags. The lenses on my car are “D” but with a cutout for the lensholder screw. The are mainly white with a 1” red band for the tail lamp.
Perhaps Peter Scott could look in his Lucas catalogue and see if such a beast exists.
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Ray White
Joined: 02 Dec 2014 Posts: 6360 Location: Derby
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Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 1:19 pm Post subject: |
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A photo of my D lamp. It is apparent that I would need to reposition the bulb holder to fit a divider. No problem.
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PAUL BEAUMONT
Joined: 27 Nov 2007 Posts: 1281 Location: Barnsley S. Yorks
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Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2019 5:17 pm Post subject: |
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Not really helping with your issue but I have recently replaced the guts of my D lamps with the LED panels from Classic dynamo conversions. I am only 6v and I now have rear lights that you can see, proper brake lights and the ammeter doesn't have heart failure when I brake. Wondering if their flashing festoon bulbs intended for semaphores could help you? |
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Ray White
Joined: 02 Dec 2014 Posts: 6360 Location: Derby
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Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2019 9:16 pm Post subject: |
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PAUL BEAUMONT wrote: | Not really helping with your issue but I have recently replaced the guts of my D lamps with the LED panels from Classic dynamo conversions. I am only 6v and I now have rear lights that you can see, proper brake lights and the ammeter doesn't have heart failure when I brake. Wondering if their flashing festoon bulbs intended for semaphores could help you? |
Thanks for your suggestions, Paul. I have decided to leave the D lamps with twin filament bulbs and position LED indicators discretely at the back. At the front, the new side lamps will come with indicators built in.
I have 12 volts and I am considering one of those alternators built into a dynamo body so should in theory at least have more than enough amps. |
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ukdave2002
Joined: 23 Nov 2007 Posts: 4124 Location: South Cheshire
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Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 2:16 pm Post subject: |
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A vehicle of this era can be fitted with flashing brake lamps like the post war minor and MGA had. |
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Penman
Joined: 23 Nov 2007 Posts: 4765 Location: Swindon, Wilts.
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ukdave2002
Joined: 23 Nov 2007 Posts: 4124 Location: South Cheshire
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Penman
Joined: 23 Nov 2007 Posts: 4765 Location: Swindon, Wilts.
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Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 4:42 pm Post subject: |
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Hi
Interesting, I wouldn't read that as meaniing the brake lights can flash just that they can use the same bulb/lamp. _________________ Bristols should always come in pairs.
Any 2 from:-
Straight 6
V8 V10 |
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PAUL BEAUMONT
Joined: 27 Nov 2007 Posts: 1281 Location: Barnsley S. Yorks
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Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 5:06 pm Post subject: |
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The brake lights do not flash, just the bulbs when they are used as indicators. A special relay sorts it out! |
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