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1909 Alldays and Onions 2 seat Runabout
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PAUL BEAUMONT



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 1:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's going to be a shame to cover up all that beautiful ash!!
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Rdover



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm the same. It doesn't matter what it is, a wall, steel or ash frame I love looking at an engineering work of art.

It will look even better once finished though - I have about 4 weeks to decide on colour - current thoughts are keep the orange wings and chassis and paint the body either blue or green (edwardian shade) with contrasting piping.
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Rdover



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

More from my latest visit for a seat fitting:

The seat will be a lot more comfortable with upholstery but the driving position is rather good. When I was sat in the car another customer asked why I was sitting hunched forwards with a grimace on my face. I told him that the reason Edwardian photographs of cars showed a steely unsmiling driver was that they were either scared in anticipation of the forthcoming journey or were actually terrified whilst on the move!

The jump seat will now fold, be lifted and rotate to open to allow access to the rear seats. The side rail opens out to give a little more space if needed.

Colour
we are now looking at painting everything except the chassis/running gear. The body and wings will be Royal Blue with orange piping, the wheels and axles will be black and the chassis will remain the same orange colour.

What's left?
Ally panelling of the seat backs
Side panels in ply
foot board and new scuttle
paint and upholster

Timescale is about 2 more months. NOTE: the solid side board beside the panels will be cut back to form a nice curve from the seat squab down and forwards to join with the angled footboard as the sweep up to the scuttle.











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Rdover



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Rdover



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yet more











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Rdover



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote










Orange and blue do go .... As you can see from this trailer I spotted in a field round the corner.


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47Jag



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Richard,

Looking good. Who's doing the work for you? I read your web page. What happened to the dark green plan? Blue and orange is a bit Gulf Porsche Racing is it not. Still it's your car, your choice.

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Rdover



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 8:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's all being done by The Carrosserie Company in Barnard Castle.

Painting the chassis is too much work at the moment and by leaving it orange and painting everything else blue it leaves the option of making the chassis black in due course.

It will look a little outrageous but hten again, why not!
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buzzy bee



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 10:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

I wouldn't worry too much about the colour being different to what you imagine! I have seen a few old cars in a mates collection, and they are not what you would expect colour wise, but they work!

One is bright yellow, and I mean bright!!

Looking good all in!
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Rdover



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 8:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We've had more discussions about the colour(s) than any other subject and we STILL haven't decided. Last night's suggestion was blue body, orange chassis (well dark, dusky orange really) and black wings and running gear .....

and on it goes Rolling Eyes
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Scotty



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 12:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

With regard to colour it all comes down to what you're hoping to achieve - you need to ask yourself (which you may have already done) are you wanting the car as close to the original spec as possible or do you want it to reflect your own "stamp" on it.

As Buzzy mentions Edwardian colours can be quite garish to our modern eyes, however back then it was all about conspicuous consumerism for the "young gent about town"! Bright colours were the name of the day for many manufacturers / coach-builders.

My only caviat would be the intensity of the colours you eventually choose - if total authenticity is your route then your bodybuilder should be able to advise you (or at least point you in the right direction to who can) with regard to what colours were available then and how "bright" they would have been at the time your car was originally built. Chemicals used in paint manufacturing then were considerably different to what they are today. However if its going to be a "personal choice" colour then the world's your rainbow oyster. Very Happy

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Rdover



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 1:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Scotty,
As I've said to others, colour is a very personal choice and we are lucky that there is no 'standard' to follow although we do want it to be 'period'.

The consensus today is deep, classy royal blue wings and body, chassis and wheels orange (as currently) with contrasting coach lines on each (blue on orange/orange on blue).

Next is to decide the colour of leather we use AAAAaaargh
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john-saab



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It might be good to choose a nutral colour..if you change your mind on the colour scheme later it's easier to do if the leather is black rather than blue for example.
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Rdover



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 1:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's almost finished!!!

Just aluminium panelling, paint and upholstery to go. There are new rear springs on order to go with the new rear dumb irons and shackles, a new exhaust and a little bit of carburation work and it'll be done, home and ready for me to start fixing all the wee bits found whilst the body was off.

The new scuttle (dash or firewall) is about 2" taller to accommodate the tank and 1" wider to look right with the new footboards and body. It was also made nearly twice as thick to carry the weight of the tank.








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PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 11:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Photos of the body complete and ready for panelling, painting and upholstery ...

Note: The rear suspension has yet to be replaced with original style dumb-irons and new uprated springs. I am also replacing the exhaust so it clears the scuttle and exits at the rear rather than the side.








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