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[kaybee]

Hiya Gilberry, it's more than 30 years since I did my last BW35 overhaul, so I'm relying on memory a bit, but I'm guessing they found the back of the front pump was blank where the cooler takeoff pipe would be, no machined recess in the case for the pipe and obviously no pipe to the side of the case and no dimples in the pan to retain the pipe, pump gears smaller then later versions, and differences in the valve body and governor and also in the line pressure valve in the back of the front pump.
How close did I get? , regards, Col.

[Uncle Joe]

Kaybee, I'm guessing that you are quiteaccurate, but you forgot the clutch plates - but maybe these were standard in Aus-market boxes?

UJ

[kaybee]

Hi Uncle Joe, I didn't forget the clutch packs, but it's likely the stock early trans would have a similar number of plates to the later trans for the same size engine, due to torque ratings being much the same. The later model 35's we used here in Chryslers and Ford's still had 4&5 plate clutches in them, some of them had a wider front band and bigger servo's, but the basic setup was the same in most of the trans . Ford even ran the 35 behind the 289 Windsor V8 when it was first introduced in the local Falcon for '67, but that wasn't too successful (optimistic in the extreme ) and they changed back to the C4 trans part way through production. All things considered, they did a pretty decent job for a trans that was designed for small cars, and is the reason I suggested to Gilberry that he serviced and ran the trans as is. Worst thing that could happen is the trans might get hot ,depending on how it's treated,and that can be dealt with easily by more frequent fluid changes. Given the climate and the likeliehood that the caravan trips are not going to be 2-3,000 Kilometer adventures , I doubt the trans would have been a problem,ever. It's easy to forget that most factory cooler systems run the fluid through the lower tank in the radiator and then back into the trans,and if you reckon that water is cold, stick your finger in it and let me know Cheers, Col

[gillberry]

now do you really think that would be a good idea - two women together pulling two men apart!!! your life would not be worth living after we had compaired notes

[Uncle Joe]

Kaybee, you've aroused my interest now regarding the clutch packs! Its a long time since i did anything with a BW35, but I do remember doing a number of 'upgrades' to them. One of these always included changing from 3 to 5 plates, ie to early Range Rover spec.

Is my memory really playing tricks on me?

In a lot of ways, I do agree with what you said, just drive the car and keep an eye on the oil. It will soon show any problems! I still think though that I would have done a total upgrade to the latest spec. that BW had, due to horrendous the english traffic! They were good boxes though. Still prefer C6's or A727's though!

UJ

[gillberry]

Altough some of you felt there was no need for an oil cooler we had one fitted anyway which as it turned out was a goo job as when they took the gearbox off the friction plate was disintergrating and there was a couple of other faults . So we went ahead with a rebuild and now have a completely different car , something we would not have known about without the rebuild . And yes the holes for the oil cooler were none existent .

[Rick]

Good news, always nice to head out onto the road knowing that things have been re-con'd properly, it'd have been a nightmare breaking down with a duff box at the side of the road, with caravan on the back!

R
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[gillberry]

that depends if simon gets the tow bar off the other Sceptre and fits it to mine in time caravan goes in for a service end of April (earliest we could get it booked in) then the fun begins two people two dogs in a 30+ year old 11ft caravan with a 40 year old car

[iain]

Done the right thing? Oh yes. We got given a 1960 carcruiser last year. Towed it home behind our 182 Granada, which didnt look at all right. Granada has now moved on and our tow car is either a Morris Minor - too small, or the Land Rover, which looks a little too much like a gypsy outfit for my liking. So we're on the lookout for a towcar now. Fancy a Morris Isis myself, but haven't seen one for ages. No regrets though, and we've not been to the first show yet. Still faffing with the caravan!