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D4B

Joined: 28 Dec 2010 Posts: 2083 Location: Hampshire UK
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Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 10:43 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Turfer,
This is interesting, I have just killed yet another Clarke angle grinder, like you say they start to vibrate then just lose drive completely. I shall take it back and see if I can exchange it against a Black & Decker
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colwyn500
Joined: 21 Oct 2012 Posts: 1745 Location: Nairn, Scotland
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Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 10:57 pm Post subject: |
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As the originator of this thread I must stand up for my cheap B&Q grinder because it's having a fairly hard life and is still going strong.
It's worth checking your instructions because my instructions actually say that it should not be used with wire-brush attachments. Obviously there is a lot of inertia in these things and they don't need to be much out of balance to create a strain on the bearings that it might not have been engineered for. |
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D4B

Joined: 28 Dec 2010 Posts: 2083 Location: Hampshire UK
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Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 11:02 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Peter,
Yes I would agree with you on those wire brush attachments, probably best to use the flappy sanding discs which you recommended elsewhere (lighter weight and more balanced?)
Steve |
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Bitumen Boy
Joined: 26 Jan 2012 Posts: 1763 Location: Above the snow line in old Monmouthshire
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Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 11:39 pm Post subject: |
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D4B wrote: | Hi Turfer,
This is interesting, I have just killed yet another Clarke angle grinder, like you say they start to vibrate then just lose drive completely. I shall take it back and see if I can exchange it against a Black & Decker
Cheers Steve |
Don't exchange it. Thing is when you exchange any of these things under the guarantee, once the replacement goes west (as they so often do these days), you'll not generally get another even if the second fails within the guarantee period of the first. I'm not sure of the exact legal position on this, maybe if you kicked up a fuss about it you could get a second replacement - but there is an easier way. Instead of exchanging the broken one, insist on a refund. Good shops won't quibble about this. Then when you've got your money back buy a replacement, doesn't matter if it's 2 mins later in the same shop, it's a new transaction so the clock starts from zero and if there's something you didn't like about the first one - like the fact it was a lousy piece of junk - you can try something different. Only thing to remember with this dodge is that you must pay cash - if you pay on a card that's lost/stolen/expired by the time you want that refund you'll have the devil's own job getting your money back as they'll tell you the refund has to go onto the original card. Again, maybe that's BS but as it's an easily avoided hassle you may as well avoid it. If it's something that fails regularly anyway like kettles or, indeed, angle grinders, you can really cut your expenditure this way, so long as you keep those receipts safe  |
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Richard H
Joined: 03 Apr 2009 Posts: 2150 Location: Lincolnshire, UK
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Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 11:46 pm Post subject: |
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I've got a Black and Decker grinder. Had it years and it's never let me down, and it's done several cars, including all the rust removal on my 'colander' Austin Cambridge. Make of that what you will!
Also had a couple of B&D electric drills that lasted years, and a 30 year old B&D electric lawnmower that only stopped working last year, not bad going! _________________ Richard Hughes |
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Bitumen Boy
Joined: 26 Jan 2012 Posts: 1763 Location: Above the snow line in old Monmouthshire
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Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 12:01 am Post subject: |
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They've lasted because they're old, from when things were made properly. I bet modern B&D stuff wouldn't last as long. You can see it even on the Workmates if you compare an old one to the more recent offerings, the old ones were a lot better.
The same goes for other makes too, I'm still using a Bosch drill that my dad got off the tiger tokens years ago. As it seemed to be lasting well when I bought my first grinder I got another Bosch and was (comparitively) soon disappointed at its lack of long term durability. As for the drill, it's still going, never even needed brushes yet although it's seen off several lengths of flex! Looks like it will finally die due to worn gears, I wonder how long its eventual replacement won't last? |
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D4B

Joined: 28 Dec 2010 Posts: 2083 Location: Hampshire UK
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Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 11:02 am Post subject: |
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Yes this is true about how things USED to be made.... my 4" Sealey SG100 angle grinder is still going strong and I have owned that one for 25 years!!!
Good advice about not trading in cheers  |
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ukdave2002
Joined: 23 Nov 2007 Posts: 4240 Location: South Cheshire
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Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 11:59 am Post subject: |
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To be fair we need to appreciate the real cost, I bought a decent B&D Pro angle grinder in the mid 80's, it cost £39 or 3 weeks saving all my Saturday job pay!
I'd estimate in todays money that would be around £120 I could buy a couple of quality brand grinders for £120 today or almost 7 of these cheap ones? These days have a Dewalt and Makita, the Makita has stooped working, I suspect it is the switch so it will be fixed at some point, I agree with the comments about cheaper power tools vibrating badly.
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Remmoc
Joined: 24 Mar 2013 Posts: 11
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Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 1:50 pm Post subject: |
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Dewalt for me ,Mines lasted over 10 years of abuse .
before that a cheap Bosch which also lasted 10 years before grenading its gearbox
If your using them in dusty conditions ie. if you hit car filler blow out the motor with an air line , i rewind electric motors for a living and dust , dirt , mice skulls and snakes ( not joking about the last two either ) tends to kill off motors . |
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Phil - Nottingham

Joined: 01 Jan 2008 Posts: 1252 Location: Nottingham
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Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 9:15 am Post subject: |
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My first grinder was a 4.5 in one from Wickes in the mid 1980's - it lasted 20 years. It was actually a Kress made by the Swiss?
It was quite well made, compact and light - I have bought a 5" one from Lidl which lasted 8 years but found it heavy and bulky so I bought a cheap on fron Machine Mart 3 years ago and another Lidle which is OK but I doubt either will last much longer.
I do use them well and hard though
Its handy to have at least 2 on the go though to avoid disk/wire brush changing _________________ Rover P2
Rover P4
Rover P5 & P5B
Land Rover S2 & S3
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turfer
Joined: 06 Jun 2011 Posts: 8 Location: Southport
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Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 11:28 pm Post subject: grinders |
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I spoke too soon, my ryobi grinder has just started to vibrate ! I had to finish a job in a hurry so I nipped in to a local agricultural merchant and bought the only one he had, a draper expert at £39. I have just used it to grind 2 rusty 7 ft beams and it feels good, time will tell though. |
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colwyn500
Joined: 21 Oct 2012 Posts: 1745 Location: Nairn, Scotland
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Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 11:33 pm Post subject: |
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Keep feeding back info with that Ryobi.
My B&Q one is starting to give problems already with the on/off switch. |
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