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Desert Fox



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

petermeachem wrote:
The epoxy primers are all 2 part ones aren't they? I am really only going to do a small area at a time. I'd be throwing away a lot of unused primer.
You can get spray cans but they go off after 4 days.
Can't really remember as it was so long ago, but I think I rubbed down the areas where rust had come through and sprayed some primer over the top. Now rust has come through but I didn't treat the rust in any way and it was 25 years ago. I can't believe this is so hard, there must be an easier and acceptable way


No, you can get 1k epoxy primers.
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MikeEdwards



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 11:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ukdave2002 wrote:
Thanks for the tip Bitumen Boy, I just called in at a local farm supplier and 5L is less than £10 inc vat Smile Smile

Cheers

Dave


I wish I'd read this earlier, I've just bought a 250ml bottle of 'ph Down' off eBay for about a fiver, which I didn't think was bad. Which supplier did you use Dave?

I diluted this stuff at about 10% with water, I think I might try it in a stronger solution later on, see what difference it makes as it's quite slow going on anything other than very slight surface rust.
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MikeEdwards



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, my results with 'ph Down' are quite mixed. I've got a glass jug with a 10% diluted solution in, and that does a reasonable job of cleaning up stuff that gets dipped in it overnight. I've tried a couple of areas of bodywork and painting on first the diluted solution, and then the neat liquid, and it's still not shifting some of the thicker bits of rust.

I've been painting some on, leaving it for a while (overnight, on one test occasion) and then going over it with wire wool, then a grinding wheel in the dremel without putting too much pressure, and there are still some bits that aren't shifting. It's in a corner section, so I can't get the knotted-wire-brush-in-angle-grinder in there.

I'd love to know what the likes of SPL put in their tanks, and whether I can just paint some on my floor.
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ukdave2002



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Mike

I got some from countrywide.

Dave
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MikeEdwards



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 11:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers Dave, will have a look there.

I am mixed on this stuff. The corner section I referred to above has now consumed so much time trying to clean off rust by dousing with phDown, leaving for a bit (sometimes overnight), scouring with wire wool, wiping off and going over with the wire wheel and/or dremel grinder, that it probably would have been quicker to cut the piece out, make a new one, and fit it. Yet in other sections, it's very good.

Still, even at the price I paid off eBay, it's way cheaper than buying a 'proper' rust killer. Just have the dilemma now of whether I should strip back some parts I've already done with Kurust and painted over, and do them again.
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