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[Rick]

MOTd and taxed, but still needing work, this V8 250 auto has a lot going for it if the bidding remains relatively low, as it is now.

Wouldn't a '68 year car have the slimmer bumpers, a la Jaguar 240/340, or did the Daimler continue with the beefier items as found on early Mk2s?

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RJ
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[Ellis]

It's a late Daimler V8 250 all right but with some features from the earlier Daimler V8 as it was called.

As Rick points out the bumpers are the "armco" type from the earlier model.
This one should have the slimline bumpers as in the Jaguar 240/340. I think the front panel and rear valance panel were different in the post 1967 models to accommodate the slimmer bumpers. The correct front bumper is identical to that of the Jaguar "S" Type

The wire wheels, if you want to be picky are also incorrect. They are of the "curly hub" sort instead of the later and easier to clean "flat hub" variety.
The wheels have "eared" spinners and should have round ones. Not obvious from the photos but Daimlers should have the motif "D" on the centre part of the spinner whether the flat or curly hub type.

The remainder of the car looks authentic however. The top dash cover is vinyl covered as it should be for 1967/68 and not wood veneered. The headlining is correct for a Daimler and should have only three interior lights as opposed to four for Jaguars.

The "Fograngers" are correct in a late V8 250. Other points worth mentioning is that the car should start "on the key" and not "on the button" by 1967/68. I do not see the jack in the boot and the plastic tool container is probably long gone. Oddly, even if wire wheels were specified when ordering new, a wheel brace would still b e part of the car's original equipment, clipped on the rear bulkhead.

The door cards appear to be the correct type for a Daimler with the vinyl roll as opposed to the wood veneer of a Jaguar.

Looks to be a nice car on the whole.

Edit. If this Daimler is in it's original white, as it appears to be, then I venture that it is a rare survivor because Daimler owners preferred darker colours on their cars. They could choose from the extensive Jaguar colour choice but the Daimler attracted a different clientele.
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1964 Jaguar Mark 2 3.4 litre
1962 Land Rover Series 2a 88"
2002 BMW M3 E46 Cabriolet

[badhuis]

Are you sure about the start key instead of button?
My 420 (late 1967) has the same middle instrument/switch panel with the start button. As far as I know the 420, which is different to the Mk2/ Daimler 250 of course but shares the same switch panel and build dates, never had a key for starting. Last Daimler Sovereign (Daimler version of the 420 and went on for a few months longer) was in 1969. Exceptions may be special exports to certain EU countries which demanded steering locks.

[Ellis]

[bob2]

Do daimlers go that cheap?
Its a nice and very solid looking car in need of some minor fettling!!!
Surely it must be worth much more than the present bid!!

[gresham flyer]

It has got nearly six days to go.!!!

My J Type van had about £1500 bid on it after a couple of day`s, it finally went for £11,500. In the last 15 minutes £5,000 was added to the bidding.

G.F

[bob2]

Well I'll keep an eye on it just in case!!

[gresham flyer]

There you go it is sitting at £2050.00 now,creeping up a tad.

[gresham flyer]

Remember if it has been restored or worked on by any old Tom,Dick or Harry in the bodge up car market it could turn out to be a money pit.

Not a lot of restorers out there understand how to restore 1950`s 0r 1960`s Jaguar and Daimler`s properly.

I have visited some body shops or so called restores in the past and shook my head with amazement when I have seen how they were trying to work on such cars....no idea at all most of them.

Try and purchase a Daimler or Jaguar from a proper enthusiast who has had the money to maintain it properly.
A tired car can seem a bargain at the time,but cost a lot to get it looking and performing correctly.
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Also not many people understand how to work on the Daimler v8 engine.
We used them for drag racing in the 1970`s/1980`s so I cut my teeth on them so to speak.

Just as a guide I spent easily £10,000 restoring my Daimler in 1997 (16 years ago) and I carried out all the work myself, except the chroming.

Interior trim kit over £3,000.
Chroming..... £1500
Engine rebuild parts.
Gearbox manual overdrive parts.
Paint.
Wheels and tyres.
Suspension parts.
etc etc.

Soon adds up.

It costs the same to restore a DaimlerV8 as it does a JaguarMK2 ,but the Jaguar was always worth twice as much as the DaimlerV8.

That is why if you want to be a bit different purchase a Daimler,there are not so many out on the market place.

When I turn up at a show in my Daimler V8 ,the snobby Jaguar club look at my car as if I cannot afford a proper Jaguar MK2.

But they do not know what lurks in my motor house back home.


G.F

[bob2]

Highest bid was £4,671.99
Still seems a bargain to me when compared to Jaguar mark 2 prices and the engine is a much nicer unit, to me at least it looks like a better package for far less money!

[captain bobo]

I am intrigued by the comment earlier about "start on key, not button".

My 1969 Daimler V8 250 with a very late chassis and engine number still has button start. I'm a member of the DLOC (Daimler & Lanchester Owner's Club) and have not found any other members with V8 2.5 or V8 250 saloons that have anything other than a button start.

My service manual and parts manual (complete with all updated amendments) only refer to button start and the circuit diagrams for dynamo and alternator versions for all years show button start.



Having said that, I'll keep asking around to see if I can find a "start on key" Daimler V8 250.

Best wishes, Dave B
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1937 Daimler 15 Mulliner Sports Saloon & 1969 Daimler V8 250 Saloon

[Ellis]

All late 240/340/250 V8 were fitted with a different type of ignition switch.

I'll research some more and post further.
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[gresham flyer]

I do not think they were fitted with different ignition switches.
Centre key with black push button next to it.

Certainly no steering locks in those days, not until the XJ`s came along.

G.F

[captain bobo]

Extract from my Daimler V8 250 service manual:-
"A "Waso-Werken" combined ignition switch/steering lock is available as an optional extra and replaces the normal ignition switch on the instrument panel.

The switch/lock unit is mounted on an extension arm attached to the steering column, below the steering wheel and has three operative positions - Drive, Garage and Stop as listed below; the fourth position "Start" not being used.

The normal ignition , which has become inoperative, is retained in the instrument panel".

The implication of the above is that the dash mounted ignition switch was by-passed by the Waso-Werken unit, but the "Start" position on the Waso-Werken unit was not used, the original dash button was used to start.

Best wishes, Dave B
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1937 Daimler 15 Mulliner Sports Saloon & 1969 Daimler V8 250 Saloon