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Coventry Knight wheels needed - 'easy cleans'?
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 1:24 pm    Post subject: Coventry Knight wheels needed - 'easy cleans'? Reply with quote

Hi all,

I'm back on my caravan restoration again but need some help. It's a 1948 Coventry Knight and is is fine structural condition a fairly complete inside too.

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All is going well in most ways but the rims I bought it with are old Land Rover ones which are; a) not as pretty as the originals, and b) not a deep enough dish so the tyres rub on the caravan body wheel arch.

The ones I need look like this:

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Apparently they're called 'easy cleans' and were quite common in the 40's & 50's. I need 5 stud 16" ones if anyone knows of any for sale?

Cheers.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 2:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi
These are 16 inch 5 stud, seem to be deep dished and were available in the sizes shown below.

They were on Bristols 400 to 409

400 S1

3½ x 16

400 S2

DRC 3½ D16 EO

400 S3

3½ x 16

401 early & 402

4½ x 16

401 & 403

DRC 4½ J 16

403 late & 404

DRC 4½ J 16 T795

405

DRC 4½ J 16 LP702

406 - 409

4½ x 16

I suspect the best place to locate some and check the actual dimensions is:

Brian May
Telephone: 0121 430 3767

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Penman,

With that info + Brian we might be onto something. I'm no expert on wheels but would say those rims are possibly dished the opposite way from the way I need, I'm looking to get the tyres further away from the inside arch and these are perhaps dishing further over the drum & nearer the body? Or am I wrong? I hope I am.

Penman wrote:
Hi
These are 16 inch 5 stud, seem to be deep dished and were available in the sizes shown below.

They were on Bristols 400 to 409

400 S1

3½ x 16

400 S2

DRC 3½ D16 EO

400 S3

3½ x 16

401 early & 402

4½ x 16

401 & 403

DRC 4½ J 16

403 late & 404

DRC 4½ J 16 T795

405

DRC 4½ J 16 LP702

406 - 409

4½ x 16

I suspect the best place to locate some and check the actual dimensions is:

Brian May
Telephone: 0121 430 3767

and no he isn't the one that plays guitar. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry Rick, had no idea. By all means contact me via:

olliehalls(at)hotmail.com

Cheers

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Hi, welcome back, as per t&cs regarding adverts (http://www.oldclassiccar.co.uk/forum/phpbb/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=10724) could you include some form of contact info please, for non-members who can't PM.

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sheffieldcortinacentre



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 11:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

if you can find the right centres a good fabricator/welder should be able to reposition them or fit them to suitable rims.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 2:51 am    Post subject: wheels Reply with quote

What Land Rover wheels are you using? If you have ended up with series 1 or 2 LWB wheels they will have a wider flange on the inside than the outside (about 2 inch on the inside). If so track down some series 3 or 110 rims which have the wider flange on the outside - effectively giving a wider track and thus moving the tyre further from the inner arch.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 10:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting. The wheels came with the van and I know absolutely nothing about Landrovers but I can have an ask.....
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Old Van Man to the rescue. These look like they could be just the ticket!

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/WHEEL-VINTIQUE-BARE-ARTILLERY-HOT-ROD-STEEL-WHEELS-CUSTOM-BARE-15-16-/231086439862?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Helmets&var=&hash=item35cdd33db6[url][/url]
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 1:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you are sure you have Land Rover wheels fitted I’ll add the following:
There are several types of standard Land Rover wheel, but I suspect you have one of the very readily available types which in size terms will either be SWB or LWB. The type of construction is age dependant, but essentially they are the same size for each version respectively. Squinting at your photograph it looks to me that you already have the LWB wheel fitted which is the deeper dish of the two. A better photograph of the wheel will confirm this plus you could also supply the numbers which will be on the flat area between the studs. If you are on LWB wheels you could fit wheel spacers assuming you know what you are doing – they are not cheap though!

http://www.paddockspares.com/pm776-30mm-aluiminium-wheel-spacers-for-series-2-and-3-set-of-4.html

Note also that Land Rover wheels have quite a large stud hole so wheel nuts of 1 1/16” will be required. Anything smaller could rip off – I’ve seen this happen on early SWB Land Rovers with LWB wheels fitted!!!
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think we have a very satisfactory solution in the pipeline.......
A friend has come up with some incredibly rusty original CK rims, which although are dangerously thin where the tyre meets the rim are, apparently, still able to be used for the centres only and new rims fabricated to them.
Fingers crossed for a safe outcome & thanks to all for suggestions.
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Suicide Jockey



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 12:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I may be breaking a Coventry Knight which is complete but been in an accident. I have the correct wheels with good tyres fitted. Let me know if you are interested.

thank you stevie
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 12:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes please Stevie. Sad to hear of a CK going that way but these things do happen I guess. I'll PM you to sort some details. I might want a few other bits too, plus I know a few others out there restoring CK units.
Cheers
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