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Pos to earth Alternator for 1946 Morris 8 Series E
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TribalElder



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 7:49 am    Post subject: Pos to earth Alternator for 1946 Morris 8 Series E Reply with quote

Yea, 6 volt Pos-to-earth Alternator and universal bracket received from the good ol' US of A this arvo. Only 10 days from order to delivery. This is the regulated, single wire type so only requires running wire from the alt terminal to battery Neg pole. Can now do away with the present regulator or leave it there for originality. Looking forward to going from bugga-all amps to a steady 45 The 46 Morry 8 Ser E wont know itself This, along with the recently fitted 800cca 6volt battery and the "Hall Effect" pointless ignition should keep "Laury the Morry" happy


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 8:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The ignition system looks interesting, what make and does it do what it says on the tin? Also, hope you rescued the screw before starting!
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 8:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ka wrote:
The ignition system looks interesting, what make and does it do what it says on the tin? Also, hope you rescued the screw before starting!


Powerspark from UK made the "Hall Effect" electronic ignition. I think I was either the first or a very early orderer of a pos to earth system as, when I first enquired they only made neg to earth versions. They called me when they made the pos to earth vesion and at $69 I ordered straight away Very Happy The system functions perfectly ALL THE TIME, no points to wear out or close up and I love the fact that it is all hidden inside the original DKY4A Lucas dizzy.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 11:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TribalElder wrote:
I love the fact that it is all hidden inside the original DKY4A Lucas dizzy.

Yet you go and fit a glaringly obvious alternator? Have I missed something?
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 03, 2015 3:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep, you have missed something Wink Was never my intention to fit the alternator until the heat-resistant (1000 C ) Satin Black paint arrived. Now waiting a couple of days after applying the paint before alternator goes in. Very Happy


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 04, 2015 1:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love your workbench Ian the ability to make toast and a cuppa is pure luxury Very Happy

With regards to the battery what brand name is it and where were you able to source it?

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 04, 2015 2:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rosco663 wrote:
I love your workbench Ian the ability to make toast and a cuppa is pure luxury Very Happy

With regards to the battery what brand name is it and where were you able to source it?

Cheers


Lol, it has been too hot to work in the shed/garage as we are experiencing temperatures around the 41c (115F) mark at the moment :p

I use an Optima 6 volt 800cca battery as I have found them ever reliable in my 4wd. Each cell has 15 spiral-wound plates in a gel-base. The battery can be mounted sideways, upside-down, whatever. It can also be run down to flat and will happily be charged back up again.



This is the battery running my Morris 8. I have made a lid to fit over the battery box to hide it as it is quite different to the conventional battery it replaced. In Oz they are available everywhere and cost about $230 for a 6volt or 12 volt version.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 3:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the info Ian Smile

I'll see about getting one when the time comes to replace my battery, as more CCA's the better and the ability to allow it to run down is an advantage also. Do you use a battery trickle charger as well or do you give a full charge before heading out on trips?

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 11:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like your work Ian. I don't usually like to go non-original but you've used some quality items that make your car much more useable. Driving them is what it's all about IMHO. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Driving them is what it's all about IMHO. Very Happy

Couldn't agree more, but the truth is that the original components fitted to the Morris Eight are very reliable, if in good condition. We all have our own views on the subject, but the rationale behind replacing perfectly good original components with modern stuff escapes me.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 10:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

goneps wrote:
colwyn500 wrote:
Driving them is what it's all about IMHO. Very Happy

Couldn't agree more, but the truth is that the original components fitted to the Morris Eight are very reliable, if in good condition. We all have our own views on the subject, but the rationale behind replacing perfectly good original components with modern stuff escapes me.


I just got the impression that Ian was finding the car's electrics inadequate.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 9:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Morris 8's electrics are adequate until the headlamps are turned on, at which point the electrics struggle even if you have the original low wattage main beam bulbs fitted, most have a higher wattage these days as the originals are difficult to come by, meaning the dynamo can't keep up.

If you only undertake the odd short evening trip in the hours of darkness on well lit roads, the original lighting is probably adiquate , otherwise it's a case of getting more bang for your bucks; led lighting or increasing the bucks with an upgrade like this.

The other advantage of fitting an alternator is improved preservation of the battery. Certainly lead acid batteries will last longer when charged by a nicely regulated alternator rather than the electro mechanical dynamo or worse the "high//low" shunt resistor control of earlier 8's!

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2015 7:06 am    Post subject: Morris 8 Electrics Reply with quote

Om my first Morris 8 in the 1950's I never had a problem with the 6 volt electrics. I drove all around Cheshire at night, back and forth to work in the dark and it had the Lucas Headlight kit with the pre-focus bulbs which were higher wattage than normal. The generator kept up OK. I even had one of those windscreen defrosters, bit like a miniature electric fire. The only time I had a flat battery was when I forgot to turn off the defroster, which was not wired through the ignition, and it was on all day whilst I was at work and the battery was flat when I was about to go home.
My current Morris 8 has the standard electricals and works fine, although I rarely take it out at night.
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