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Ellis
Joined: 07 Mar 2011 Posts: 1386 Location: Betws y Coed, North Wales
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Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 7:32 pm Post subject: Which Fiat would you consider collectable? |
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People of my generation had a cynical view of Italian cars - "great engines but dissolving bodywork" - and indeed I was just as biased until my mother chose a new Panda in 2010. It was followed by a second and now the daily runabout is a Fiat 500L 1.6 diesel which was bought last September.
"A Fiat is a good car" is a statement I sneered at for years but I am now a convert.
Many will remember the Lancia Delta fiasco in the late 1970s and early 1980s when Fiat UK actually compensated owners when three year old cars failed the MOT due to terminal rust.
There is however one Fiat car of the 60s/70s which I have always thought was especially nice and good looking in that ethereal way which only the Italians seem to design.
The Fiat 124 Coupe in the BC model :
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To be fair I did not ever see that many but when I did the 124 Coupe stood out.
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colwyn500
Joined: 21 Oct 2012 Posts: 1745 Location: Nairn, Scotland
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Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 7:41 pm Post subject: |
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The (now commonly called) Classic 500. (I am a bit biased there).
fiat500 by peterthompson, on Flickr
The Coupe of the 1990s.
The X19
The original Multipla
KNO_1936 by peterthompson, on Flickr
The 850 and 900 vans and their variants.
Aside from the rust, which is all in the past, Fiats are usually very cleverly designed, well engineered and well-styled. It's a pity more don't appear on this Forum.  |
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D4B

Joined: 28 Dec 2010 Posts: 2083 Location: Hampshire UK
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Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 7:53 pm Post subject: |
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For me it's the the classic Fiat 500.
Then of course I cannot forget the Beast of Turin
Peter you mention the X19, I saw a new owner of one on the at the services
on the M1 heading north last weekend, he said it was his fourth one, and he still owns the other 3!!
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Rick Site Admin

Joined: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 22829 Location: UK
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Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 7:55 pm Post subject: |
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The Dino has a certain something. I'm also quite keen on the 600 Multipla.
The 124 Coupe in your post brings back memories. A friend of the time, and myself, were quizzed by a local bobby over our interest in playing in, and removing odd items from, a car just like that. This would have been in the late 1970s. It had been dumped in a car park for months, with piles of rusted metal littering the ground beneath it, the windows broken, slowly disintegrating into the ground. At the time, such discoveries weren't all that uncommon. It could only have been a young-ish car at the time, yet was in an appalling condition. A short while after it was taken way for scrap.
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52classic
Joined: 02 Oct 2008 Posts: 493 Location: Cardiff.
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Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 7:58 pm Post subject: |
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I agree Ellis, the 124 Coupe is gorgeous. I prefer the two headlamp version and I always regarded them as quite exotic back in the day.
850 Coupe is a cute little thing too, but when did you last see either? |
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colwyn500
Joined: 21 Oct 2012 Posts: 1745 Location: Nairn, Scotland
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Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 8:03 pm Post subject: |
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| There was a really restorable 850 Coupe for sale up here a few months ago, which went for a very low price on Ebay. I was sorely tempted, but having just got my life back after years spent chopping out that special reddish-brown stuff that Fiat used to make their cars out of, I managed to avoid bidding. |
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Ellis
Joined: 07 Mar 2011 Posts: 1386 Location: Betws y Coed, North Wales
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Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 8:32 pm Post subject: |
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Did any of you have a drive in one of these?
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I know it's a bit too modern for this forum but a Cinquecento was a delight to drive and is, in my opinion, a real Mini alternative and better than it.[/img] _________________ Starting Handle Expert
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peter scott

Joined: 18 Dec 2007 Posts: 7219 Location: Edinburgh
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Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 9:28 pm Post subject: |
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Unfortunately Steve got to it first but I'll fight him for it!
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colwyn500
Joined: 21 Oct 2012 Posts: 1745 Location: Nairn, Scotland
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Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 10:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Ellis wrote: | Did any of you have a drive in one of these?
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I know it's a bit too modern for this forum but a Cinquecento was a delight to drive and is, in my opinion, a real Mini alternative and better than it.[/img] |
I had two of them...Sportings. They are collectable and I missed them off my list. They have another Fiat feature... the feeling that they're going faster than the speedo actually reads  |
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mikeC

Joined: 31 Jul 2009 Posts: 1815 Location: Market Warsop, Nottinghamshire
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Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 10:44 pm Post subject: Re: Which Fiat would you consider collectable? |
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| Ellis wrote: | ...Many will remember the Lancia Delta fiasco in the late 1970s and early 1980s when Fiat UK actually compensated owners when three year old cars failed the MOT due to terminal rust...
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It was the Series 1 Beta, actually
Italian cars seem to have a poor reputation for dissolving steelwork, but were they really any worse than British cars? I can remember a neighbour's early Vauxhall Victor, bought new and which only ever came out of the garage for a Sunday morning wash; it was wheeled away as scrap after maybe three years. And BMC 1100s had a dreadful reputation for disintegrating before they saw their first MOT.
I have a great respect for elderly Fiats (and not-so-elderly ones too) - they all provide a highly entertaining driving experience. |
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peppiB
Joined: 30 Jun 2008 Posts: 686 Location: Newcastle upon Tyne
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Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 11:23 pm Post subject: |
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| Ellis wrote: | Did any of you have a drive in one of these?
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I know it's a bit too modern for this forum but a Cinquecento was a delight to drive and is, in my opinion, a real Mini alternative and better than it.[/img] |
Mother in Law had one (her final car) Great little machine and great to drive. I managed to park it in the middle of a very flooded road. Towed out, removed plugs and slowly turned by hand to eject the water from the cylinders, oil and filter and radiator change, turn the key and it started. Delivered back to MIL and she had no idea anything had happened. Lasted her 5 more years til she gave up driving, regularly travelling from north east to London in comfort. |
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colwyn500
Joined: 21 Oct 2012 Posts: 1745 Location: Nairn, Scotland
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Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 11:32 pm Post subject: |
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I do like the X19 Steve, but it does seem a bit of a hairdresser's car (and I'm not a hairdresser).
Same with the Barchetta which is nice, but a bit lacking in Fiat character. |
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Ellis
Joined: 07 Mar 2011 Posts: 1386 Location: Betws y Coed, North Wales
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Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 11:39 pm Post subject: Re: Which Fiat would you consider collectable? |
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It was the Series 1 Beta, actually
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Of course it was! I was just testing you all
The lady from whom I bought my 1976 Triumph Stag bought a dark blue Lancia Beta Spyder as it's replacement in January 1980.
It failed it's MOT in 1985 being beyond commercial repair due to corrosion and suspension wear. _________________ Starting Handle Expert
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Ray White

Joined: 02 Dec 2014 Posts: 7277 Location: Derby
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Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2015 1:34 am Post subject: |
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I had a Lancia Beta and suffered many jokes about the engine falling out etc. but in fact the car I had was one of the last ones sold into the U.K. before the import ban came into effect. By this time, strenuous efforts had been made to remedy the rust problem but by then it was, of course, too late. As it happened, my car had no rust on it when I got it and was still rust fee when it was sold a few years later.
The down side to running a car which had been banned was that it took so long to get spares and then they were expensive. Apart from heavy steering at low speeds, it was known as a "driver's car". Having said that, FIAT was something of a dead hand and it was somewhat ironic that they were paraded under the Lancia name. |
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Da Tow'd

Joined: 16 Jun 2010 Posts: 349 Location: Bella Coma British Columbia Canada
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Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2015 3:46 am Post subject: |
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Collectible Fiat
any Abarth and the Dino
I drove one like the Fiat next to the black '57 VW beetle in the photo
1959 1200 Gran Luce
it didn't quite make across the states when I drove to California to attend photography school in 1964
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