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Ellis
Joined: 07 Mar 2011 Posts: 1386 Location: Betws y Coed, North Wales
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Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 9:34 pm Post subject: Mystery object |
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For years I have been unintentionally coming across this "thing" in one of the remoter and unused drawers in my garage.
In the plastic handle there is a small compartment and inside it there is a flint like item and this is shown removed and displayed.
I have asked a few people and the best answer I've received is "it's a thing o' purpose" which doesn't help.
Any ideas anybody?[/img] _________________ Starting Handle Expert
1964 Jaguar Mark 2 3.4 litre
1962 Land Rover Series 2a 88"
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Peter_L
Joined: 10 Apr 2008 Posts: 2680 Location: New Brunswick. Canada.
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Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 9:52 pm Post subject: |
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| It moves ? |
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Ellis
Joined: 07 Mar 2011 Posts: 1386 Location: Betws y Coed, North Wales
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Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 9:56 pm Post subject: |
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| peterwpg wrote: | | It moves ? |
It does indeed.
Press the trigger and the end protrusion moves a fraction of an inch, perhaps 2mm.
That part screws off but there's no way that thing which looks like a flint will fit inside. _________________ Starting Handle Expert
1964 Jaguar Mark 2 3.4 litre
1962 Land Rover Series 2a 88"
2002 BMW M3 E46 Cabriolet |
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Peter_L
Joined: 10 Apr 2008 Posts: 2680 Location: New Brunswick. Canada.
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Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 10:22 pm Post subject: |
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An early-ish field gun/canon fuse igniter ?
Or if the end is removable and perforated, a lighter for use in large houses where several lamps would be lit in a room/s. ? |
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Ellis
Joined: 07 Mar 2011 Posts: 1386 Location: Betws y Coed, North Wales
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Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 10:25 pm Post subject: |
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| peterwpg wrote: | An early-ish field gun/canon fuse igniter ?
Or if the end is removable and perforated, a lighter for use in large houses where several lamps would be lit in a room/s. ? |
Your guess is better than mine Peter but I should point out the handle is plastic but an early type of plastic I would say. _________________ Starting Handle Expert
1964 Jaguar Mark 2 3.4 litre
1962 Land Rover Series 2a 88"
2002 BMW M3 E46 Cabriolet |
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traction39

Joined: 19 May 2009 Posts: 399 Location: South Wales
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Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2015 6:59 am Post subject: |
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A later gas lamp lighter. Earlier Victorian ones were a nice piece of "scientific" kit! _________________ Alistair
Citroen Light 15 1953, "12" 1939,
Riley 9 Special 1932 |
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Ellis
Joined: 07 Mar 2011 Posts: 1386 Location: Betws y Coed, North Wales
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Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2015 12:12 pm Post subject: |
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| traction39 wrote: | | A later gas lamp lighter. Earlier Victorian ones were a nice piece of "scientific" kit! |
Thank you, but how did it work then?
Did a special sized flint fit inside the part you can unscrew? _________________ Starting Handle Expert
1964 Jaguar Mark 2 3.4 litre
1962 Land Rover Series 2a 88"
2002 BMW M3 E46 Cabriolet |
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Penguin45

Joined: 28 Jul 2014 Posts: 384 Location: Padiham
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Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2015 2:49 pm Post subject: |
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The wheel at the end will be an abrasive, so it's rotated against the flint. The top arm should move a lot further than 2mm if you look at the pivot points. Derived from the 16/17thC wheel lock mechanism.
P45. _________________ '67 Wolseley MkI 18/85, '70 Austin MkII 1800 The Landcrab Forum. |
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MVPeters

Joined: 28 Aug 2008 Posts: 822 Location: Northern MA, USA
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Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2015 4:08 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, you can still get something similar for lighting BBQ grilles or oxy torches. No batteries!
Maybe the handle is to hold spare flints.
The main arm may be hollow, perhaps a spring inside, like loading a stapler?
Repeated squeezes on the trigger should result in a shower of sparks. _________________ Mike - MVPeters at comcast.net
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Peter_L
Joined: 10 Apr 2008 Posts: 2680 Location: New Brunswick. Canada.
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Ellis
Joined: 07 Mar 2011 Posts: 1386 Location: Betws y Coed, North Wales
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Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2015 9:43 pm Post subject: |
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Any chance the handle is ivory or bone ?
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No Peter, the handle is an early type of plastic and the flint compartment cover is plastic as well.
Thank you all gentlemen for your input. I cut the flint in the photo in half, it does fit and is held in place with a spring and the cap is screwed on.
I tried it on our gas hob and the spark is powerful enough to light the burners better than any gas lighter.
Only problem now is where do I find flints for it?
I threw all mine out including lighters when I stopped smoking cigarettes years ago. _________________ Starting Handle Expert
1964 Jaguar Mark 2 3.4 litre
1962 Land Rover Series 2a 88"
2002 BMW M3 E46 Cabriolet |
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Peter_L
Joined: 10 Apr 2008 Posts: 2680 Location: New Brunswick. Canada.
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Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2015 10:01 pm Post subject: |
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Isn't there a town in North Wales that is known for them ??
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Ellis
Joined: 07 Mar 2011 Posts: 1386 Location: Betws y Coed, North Wales
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Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2015 10:37 pm Post subject: |
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| peterwpg wrote: | Isn't there a town in North Wales that is known for them ??
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Of course there is!
Do you know I had clean forgotten about Flint in North East Wales?  _________________ Starting Handle Expert
1964 Jaguar Mark 2 3.4 litre
1962 Land Rover Series 2a 88"
2002 BMW M3 E46 Cabriolet |
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roverdriver

Joined: 18 Oct 2008 Posts: 1210 Location: 100 miles from Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
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Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 10:33 am Post subject: |
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If you find a smoker who uses thow-away gas cigarette lighters, follow him around and collect his discarded lighters. The flints in them are made much longer than necessary for the amount of gas, so there is usually quite a length of flint left when the gas is exhausted. You will need to disassemble the lighter to get the flint, but then I find uses for the springs that are inside them too. _________________ Dane- roverdriver but not a Viking. |
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kevin2306
Joined: 01 Jul 2013 Posts: 1359 Location: nr Llangollen, north wales
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Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 11:00 am Post subject: |
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You can still buy zippo flints, would one of them fit?
If you need a size. I have a few old zippo lighters so could take one apart and have a look
Kev |
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