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47p2

Joined: 24 Nov 2007 Posts: 2009 Location: Glasgow
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Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 11:26 am Post subject: Winter is almost here |
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Came across this picture today.
Scotland 1958
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Rick Site Admin

Joined: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 22784 Location: UK
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Riley Blue
Joined: 18 Jun 2008 Posts: 1751 Location: Derbyshire
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Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 1:52 pm Post subject: |
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Nothing in our part of Derbyshire either, just two overnight frosts about 7-10 days ago. It's been so mild we've only had the heating on for an hour or two however five years ago we were under about 15" of fluffy white stuff. _________________ David
1963 Riley 1.5
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BigJohn
Joined: 01 Jan 2011 Posts: 954 Location: Wem, Shropshire
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Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 2:29 pm Post subject: |
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Very mild up here on the Fylde coast this winter, excepting the high winds and heavy rain. I am considering welding a stern plate on the Escort and fitting a period outboard motor, a 100hp Johnson should be somewhere near requirements. |
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Ronniej
Joined: 02 Dec 2008 Posts: 239 Location: Blackwood, by Lanark, Scotland
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Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 3:18 pm Post subject: |
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I encountered some pretty heavy snow on Sunday returning from Glencoe. What was surprising was the speed that the conditions changed.
I am trying to identify the car in the photo. Is it a Lanchester? |
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47p2

Joined: 24 Nov 2007 Posts: 2009 Location: Glasgow
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Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 3:33 pm Post subject: |
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I thought it was a Humber _________________ ROVER
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Rick Site Admin

Joined: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 22784 Location: UK
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47p2

Joined: 24 Nov 2007 Posts: 2009 Location: Glasgow
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Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 4:04 pm Post subject: |
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I'm going to say a Humber Hawk from 1945 to 1947 so either a Mk1 or MK11
CS registration number is an Ayrshire number _________________ ROVER
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Ray White

Joined: 02 Dec 2014 Posts: 7105 Location: Derby
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Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 9:12 pm Post subject: |
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I think it's immediate pre war. The rad is flat with a hole for a starting handle which seems to have disappeared when civilian models recommenced production in 1945. Also, the lights look bigger than post War. I would suggest Super Snipe but I'm not sure because with no overriders it could be the smaller Snipe. It is definitely after '36/7 because of the flat screen. |
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47Jag
Joined: 26 Jun 2008 Posts: 1480 Location: Bothwell, Scotland
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Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2015 12:09 am Post subject: |
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Didn't someone post a site in the past that listed registration numbers by year? That would definitely give the year.
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Ray White

Joined: 02 Dec 2014 Posts: 7105 Location: Derby
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Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2015 12:51 am Post subject: |
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I don't think you can use the two letter four number registrations to date a car. I always thought date identification began in 1963.
I am always happy to be corrected if it means I no longer have to labour under a misconception. |
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Ronniej
Joined: 02 Dec 2008 Posts: 239 Location: Blackwood, by Lanark, Scotland
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Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2015 8:45 am Post subject: |
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Suffix letter registration numbers were introduced in 1963 when a few authorities issued "A" suffix numbers. This became universal the following year with the "B" suffix. This makes the year dating of these cars an exact science although you must remember that from 1967 the year change took place in August.
Having said that, it is still possible to date cars with earlier numbers although it is far less precise. If you look at the main site and scroll to the "registration numbers" tab there is dating information on most number series. In this case, the CS series was issued between may '34 and May '39. Not very exact but at least it confirms the car is pre-war.
Some registration authorities (Mainly Scottish)covering rural areas had not issued all their 4 digit numbers before 1964 and many of these were subsequently issued to cars that had lost their original numbers. I believe this explains why quite a few veteran cars participating in the L to B sport Scottish plates. |
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roverdriver

Joined: 18 Oct 2008 Posts: 1210 Location: 100 miles from Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
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Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2015 9:32 am Post subject: |
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Starting to feel like Summer Downunder in Oz!
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47p2

Joined: 24 Nov 2007 Posts: 2009 Location: Glasgow
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Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2015 9:52 am Post subject: |
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Looking at the front bumper it could be a 1937 Humber Twelve _________________ ROVER
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Ray White

Joined: 02 Dec 2014 Posts: 7105 Location: Derby
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Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2015 10:38 am Post subject: |
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47p2 wrote: | Looking at the front bumper it could be a 1937 Humber Twelve |
Yes, the way it is shaped down in the middle is quite distinctive. Also the stylised, streamlined sidelights which were a nice feature. The single, simple chrome trim strip to the bonnet sides also helps identification. It is most likely, as you say, a 12 - perhaps a Vogue?. The female figure mascot is just visible.
Although only a 1669 side valve four (Rootes) it was a lovely car. You could, of course, in those days specify a coach built body if you wished. |
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