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Ray White



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 8:05 pm    Post subject: Keep Calm and carry on... Reply with quote

That may have been the mantra during WW2 but it may well be applied to the flooded areas of Britain just recently.

Have any classic cars been ruined by flooding?

If you have been hit by Storm Desmond my heart goes out to you.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 8:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was just reading on FB, about a chap who has 3 cars - a 1950s Dodge, a R-R Silver Shadow, and a Silver Cloud, that became submerged in his garage Sad

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This naming of storms is just stupid. As everybody knows the storms are now much worse than they were when they didn't have names.

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Ray White



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rick wrote:
I was just reading on FB, about a chap who has 3 cars - a 1950s Dodge, a R-R Silver Shadow, and a Silver Cloud, that became submerged in his garage Sad

RJ


That must have been heartbreaking. Can you imagine having to deal with the aftermath. Heavily soiled interiors will need to be re trimmed and engines etc. removed and rebuilt. I think I would throw in the towel and part them out.
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V8 Nutter



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 10:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A few years ago a friend of mine had two 1960's Cadillacs caught in a flood the insurance company wrote them off they said they were contaminated and could never be used again.
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DM



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 11:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

At least one person has had to deal with the problems of a flooded car not knowing that it had been flooded.

I know of a flooded modern car which ended up with a new owner who thought it had been repossesed.

Not a happy person when they came into contact with the original owner and found out it's true history.
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Ray White



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 11:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you have a particularly rare car, the attitude of your insurance company could be an important factor. Like many other old car enthusiasts, I have a salvage buy back option but I don't know if the insurance company has the final say in certain cases. I think I will take a look at the small print.

The miserable experience of being flooded is greatly exacerbated by sewage contamination. I would have thought a practical solution to this problem would not be beyond the wit of Man.
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Ellis



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 11:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ray White wrote:


The miserable experience of being flooded is greatly exacerbated by sewage contamination. I would have thought a practical solution to this problem would not be beyond the wit of Man.


Clean or muddy floodwater damaging a car would be bad enough but sewage contamination as well must sound it's demise.

My heart goes out to all those who have suffered flood damage to their homes, property or possessions.
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Da Tow'd



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2015 4:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We had a flood in our valley in 2010
here are some photos

my sporty Karmann Ghia


this VW didn't float and I still in use


my wife's 1992 245 Volvo


draining the water from the single cab's engine

I had to rip out the headliner in my bug and buy new because of the muddy stains. I pressure washed the heater channels and was amazed the amount of silt that came out. I drained and flushed the engine and gear box, but didn't check the steering box. It froze but didn't crack the steering box. I had to take a Mapp gas torch to thaw it out and drain it so I could steer.

I pulled the Thames engine apart and cleaned and reassembled it. The starter was hooked to a big 6v battery and was eaten up on the inside with electrolysis.
I sent 3 starters off to the rebuilder make a good one.

My Lincoln welders and a Millar Plasma torch were under muddy water for 3 days but not plugged in. I pressure washed the inside of the 3 units and dried them out and all work. The plasma unit guts were covered in a wax and no water damage so far after 5 years of hard use.

lots of work cleaning after a flood
best wishes for those affected in your end of the world
Hank
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2015 8:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

peter scott wrote:
This naming of storms is just stupid. As everybody knows the storms are now much worse than they were when they didn't have names.

Peter Rolling Eyes Wink


Naming storms! Isn`t this just another US idea imported by those who are wannabee yanks?
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Ashley



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2015 10:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kim Kardashian has called her latest Desmond Storm. Sad
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Ray White



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2015 11:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It may be irritating but with extreme weather events becoming more frequent, naming storms, hurricanes, etc. does at least help with identifying which ones we are talking about. Personally, I couldn't remember which gale it was that took the cowl off the chimney and deposited it in the garden. All I know is that either I risk life and limb and put the ladder up or pay out for someone with the right equipment.

This latest storm caused two panes of glass to be blown out of my greenhouse so I consider myself as having got off quite lightly. The worst flood we had was back in 2000 when we woke to find filthy water pouring out of our Cattery. The previous owner of the property used to train dogs on the hillside and had left it bare earth. I had inadvertently left a gate open and it channelled flood water into the back of the building. If I had known about the risk I could have prevented it.

Da Tow'd has shown us how much damage has been done to his vehicles. How you can avoid it if you live in a valley, I'm not sure. Fortunately for me, our house is on a hillside so the flood water can find its way down either side of us. The only problem we have to deal with is mud!
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baconsdozen



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 21, 2015 12:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

many years back I worked with a guy who would raise sunken,neglected boats on the Norfolk Broads and elsewhere. Although the insides were cleaned out and repaired they would still smell in hot weather. The engines and running gear were my responsibilty to get going again,it amazed me that old engines that had been under water for some time would usually run again with the minimum of parts replaced.
One old employee told me the tale of a submarine that had sunk killing everyone on board which was raised,repaired and painted then put back into service for WW2. He said that the rust stains would come back through the new paint showing where water had got in during its time on the bottom and how its crew saw it as a reminder of what had happened and considered the boat cursed.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 21, 2015 1:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A friend of mine has a Wolseley 6/80 that he bought about 20 years ago. The engine had been removed by some previous owner and my friend had carefully stored it against the wall of the barn he rented for his car collection. A few months ago he asked me if I'd help get the 6/80 running again. The engine was full of water. I mean bores, sump the lot. Needless to say it was thoroughly seized.

Getting the head off was not aided by our lack of the special tool required to disconnect the vertical shaft that drives the overhead cam but accessing the pistons didn't help a lot as they really needed to be disconnected from the crankshaft so that we were not trying to free all six at once.

Unfortunately the rods in the 6/80 have their caps at an angle making it impossible to get a socket on some of the bolts given that the crank was immovable!

We did eventually get enough pots free and the engine is now back in the car with new rings and running fine.

We are now just getting to end of the next largest task which was identifying the miriad of wires that connected to the control box, several fuses and further connector boxes all of which had been removed. Needless to say none of the wire colours were readable but we keep calm and carry on.

Peter

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