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PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 8:12 pm    Post subject: Help Help Help Reply with quote

I have just removed the dynamo to put in some new bushes and I think one of the nuts has fallen down through the oil filler (just a hole when the filler cap is removed) - what do I do?
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ummmm if its definitely not fallen beneath the car, or onto the chassis somewhere beneath the engine, then you might have a little disassembling to do. First thing would be to drop the sump, probably requiring that you disconnect the central rear axle mounting thing in the middle of the chassis, so that you can move it down in order to drop the sump. Remember to get a sump gasket set (and the rope rear seal) before doing it though. Hopefully the nut will be in the sump somewhere!!

Before you do this, have you tried pulling out the complete oil filler neck and having a peer inside? its only a push-in job

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 9:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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A bit late if you don't already have one, I know, but a long probe with a magnetic end can be useful in these sorts of incidents.

Next time you are at a show with all the tool stalls have a look for one, some of them are telescopic.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

I am unsure of what car this is on, but would it not be worth taking the roccker cover off, to look for it, it may have got caught there?

If it is a flathead or simmilar forgive me, but I am unsure what car we are speaking about?

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 7:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

think its a sit-up-and-beg Pop isn't it 1stPop?

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 7:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

If it has gone down the filler neck it can only be in the sump. You may be able to flush it out if it is smaller than the sump drain plug hole; try draining the oil, which may just flush it out, if it doesn't warm the oil up and pour it in to the filler with the drain plug still out, repeat this a few time if required. If that doesn't work as Rick said drop the sump.

Although not desirable, a nut stuck in the sump will probably not pose much of a risk, worst thing that could happen is that it will partially block the oil pump intake, but itís far more lightly just to sit on the bottom of the sump.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 8:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The E93A engine has quite a large sump plug so UKDave's idea of flushing oil through could just do the trick! did the washer go down with the nut??

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 9:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Ah I see. disregard my post earlier then! Sorry! Embarassed

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks for all the help - this is my first classic and I suppose I should have been a little more careful - but there ya go! will try fishing and flushing before attempting any major stuff - lol
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 9:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Don't worry about it I am real clumsy sometimes! I am sure we all have these little problems, anyway at least you will have something to keep you occupied! hehe Laughing

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 6:09 pm    Post subject: flushed Reply with quote

have just finished lushing the oil through and the offending nut is at the drain hole in the sump, but for some reason it don't wanna come out! Its slightly smaller than the drain hole but doesn't want to play. Will try again soon. Thanks everyone for the advice.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 10:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

maybe try jacking the car up to tilt the offending nut towards the drain hole, and tap tap the sump to jiggle it over (might help??) Smile

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 12:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A bit late in this case, but often Dynamo nuts and coil terminal nuts etc on older vehicles are made of Brass. I find that anything vital that I drop is always non-magnetic, which makes big magnets (dismantle a loud speaker for the source) magnetic probes etc are about as useful as a chocolate fire guard!
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 10:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well so far I've found a washer or two in there, but not the b*****d nut! but on the plus side I did find a load of other stuff that needed doing (radiator leak, engine mounts to replace) and am having loads of fun with them.

Will give the flushing one last try and may just leave it for a while then - am going to give the engine a really good overall next year
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 10:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

if it comes to it, dropping the sump isn't a huge task - just remember to have new gaskets and a rope oil seal to hand when putting it back on

good luck!
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