classic car forum header
Classic cars forum & vehicle restoration.
 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 
Register     Posting Photographs     Privacy     F/book OCC Facebook     OCC on Patreon

Petrol Stations.
Goto page 1, 2  Next
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Classic cars forum & vehicle restoration. Forum Index -> Classic & Vintage Cars, Lorries, Vans, Motorcycles etc - General Chat
Author Message
clan chieftain



Joined: 05 Apr 2008
Posts: 2041
Location: Motherwell

PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2016 10:56 am    Post subject: Petrol Stations. Reply with quote

I have used the same Morrisons petrol station now for 20 odd years and never go anywhere else unless I am on holiday. Mind you its only 2 minutes from my house. Does anyone else use the same petrol station ?
_________________
The Clan Chieftain
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
Riley Blue



Joined: 18 Jun 2008
Posts: 1751
Location: Derbyshire

PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2016 11:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I always use Tesco, which is about a mile from home, and try to find one when I'm away. If not, it's usually Shell, both for my A8 and Riley. The Fiesta doesn't go more than 20 miles from home so it's always Tesco diesel, it's not so fussy.
_________________
David

1963 Riley 1.5
1965 Riley 1.5
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
baconsdozen



Joined: 03 Dec 2007
Posts: 1119
Location: Under the car.

PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2016 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bought a Range Rover as a daily driver a few months back. Have never used so many petrol stations,already on first name terms with most of the cashiers.
_________________
Thirty years selling imperial hand tools for old machinery(Now happily retired).
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
Ray White



Joined: 02 Dec 2014
Posts: 7107
Location: Derby

PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2016 2:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

baconsdozen wrote:
I bought a Range Rover as a daily driver a few months back. Have never used so many petrol stations,already on first name terms with most of the cashiers.


I had mine converted to run on LPG. Just as many visits to the pumps but at half the price. The conversion was £2K five years ago so must have paid for itself by now but the engine runs sweeter on LPG. There are risks to valves in some engines in running a 'hotter' fuel.

It's also a cleaner fuel, if that matters to you.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Ellis



Joined: 07 Mar 2011
Posts: 1386
Location: Betws y Coed, North Wales

PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2016 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's an interesting point.

In 1992 there were 17967 petrol and diesel retail outlets in mainland Britain (filling stations to you and me) and I wonder what the figure is now. 10000 or less is my guess.
Most of the independents have now closed, witness the number of car retailers on the sites of former filling stations.
In my village of some 700 people there were no less than SIX filling stations in the early 1960s and in the nearest village, Dolwyddelan there were two, one with hand cranked pumps selling National Benzole petrol.

Now there is only the one Shell owned site to cover the area.
_________________
Starting Handle Expert

1964 Jaguar Mark 2 3.4 litre
1962 Land Rover Series 2a 88"
2002 BMW M3 E46 Cabriolet
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Bitumen Boy



Joined: 26 Jan 2012
Posts: 1763
Location: Above the snow line in old Monmouthshire

PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2016 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I get my MOTs done at the end of the street - they're not the cheapest around, but classic friendly and give me a straight test with no BS. A couple of years ago I was chatting with the older of the two testers who was trying to remember how many petrol stations there used to be between here and Pontypool - about 10 miles away - only he kept losing count. I'm not sure now that he ever did get it right, but "lots" sums it up nicely. Today there isn't one on the main road, and only two (one at each end) even if you know where to find them.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Ray White



Joined: 02 Dec 2014
Posts: 7107
Location: Derby

PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2016 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perhaps in the end there will be only electric or some other alternative motive power and petrol will be a thing of the past? Crying or Very sad
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Dipster



Joined: 06 Jan 2015
Posts: 408
Location: UK, France and Portugal - unless I am travelling....

PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2016 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My brother designs filling stations. I used to work in a garage that was attached to one, many years ago, and knew the forecourt operation well. The difference between the days I worked and now in terms of regulation, and consequent costs, is truly amazing.

From the initial studies, to planning, then construction, every step of the way is a potential bureaucratic nightmare. I can understand why most operators make money on food items to keep the places financially viable!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
ukdave2002



Joined: 23 Nov 2007
Posts: 4236
Location: South Cheshire

PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2016 11:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dipster wrote:
My brother designs filling stations. I used to work in a garage that was attached to one, many years ago, and knew the forecourt operation well. The difference between the days I worked and now in terms of regulation, and consequent costs, is truly amazing.

From the initial studies, to planning, then construction, every step of the way is a potential bureaucratic nightmare. I can understand why most operators make money on food items to keep the places financially viable!


And after all that expense expected wafer thin margins and cash flow challenges as independents usually pay for fuel in advance or on short terms Shocked


Dave
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
Landy Des



Joined: 15 Mar 2013
Posts: 52
Location: IoW

PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 12:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I always get my fuel from a two pump garage locally. (1 diesel and 1 unleaded)

When you come to pay you go to the little office which has a stable door arrangement. Tell them how much you have filled with as they can't see the pump and they let you in to the office where there is a two bar electric fire on the go and a spaniel usually sat in front of it.

I've been in there when an elderly lady sat in the car while the attendant went and got her a box of eggs and told her to pay later as she had no change....

Long may it continue and I really don't mind paying a bit over the odds for the fuel.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Keith D



Joined: 16 Oct 2008
Posts: 1165
Location: Upper Swan, Western Australia

PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 7:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have been using my local Shell petrol station for the 16 years I have lived in Upper Swan. When we first came here you could buy just about every spare part for your car (especially if it was a Holden!) You could go into the restaurant and sit and enjoy a very good meal. There was a well equipped workshop to take care of any car hassles.
Then along came big business in the form of Coles, a huge supermarket chain. They took ownership of our local Shell garage and promptly closed the restaurant on day one.
Spare parts disappeared and we are now offered potato chips, soft fizzy drinks, magazines and CDs. If your car has any problems, then bad luck!
Because of the number of service stations that have closed, a queue for fuel is now the normal frustration experience!
Keith
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
ukdave2002



Joined: 23 Nov 2007
Posts: 4236
Location: South Cheshire

PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 9:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I must confess filling up with fuel is not something I get exited about; when I ordered my current modern it was specificed the larger fuel tank option in order that I minimise times spent filling up!

I tend to favour stations with pay at the pump facilities, then I can be in and out even quicker Smile it never ceases to amaze me the number of people who fill up at a pump where one can pay at the pump, then they wander in to the kiosk, pay by card without purchasing anything else Shocked why ? It must double the time they spend taking up a pump? Any ideas?

Dave
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
Dipster



Joined: 06 Jan 2015
Posts: 408
Location: UK, France and Portugal - unless I am travelling....

PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 9:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keith D wrote:
I have been using my local Shell petrol station for the 16 years I have lived in Upper Swan. When we first came here you could buy just about every spare part for your car (especially if it was a Holden!) You could go into the restaurant and sit and enjoy a very good meal. There was a well equipped workshop to take care of any car hassles.
Then along came big business in the form of Coles, a huge supermarket chain. They took ownership of our local Shell garage and promptly closed the restaurant on day one.
Spare parts disappeared and we are now offered potato chips, soft fizzy drinks, magazines and CDs. If your car has any problems, then bad luck!
Because of the number of service stations that have closed, a queue for fuel is now the normal frustration experience!
Keith


As daft as it sounds one of the joys of Oz for me are the out of town truck stops. I do hope that the friendly atmosphere I found in so many will not go. As a British visitor I have been offered tea and a piece of home made cake too at times! And it is so nice to be able to get tea and a bacon sandwich when overseas...... Love it.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Rick
Site Admin


Joined: 27 Apr 2005
Posts: 22784
Location: UK

PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 9:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ukdave2002 wrote:
... it never ceases to amaze me the number of people who fill up at a pump where one can pay at the pump, then they wander in to the kiosk, pay by card without purchasing anything else Shocked why ? It must double the time they spend taking up a pump? Any ideas?

Dave


It might just keep one or two people employed in jobs, rather than being replaced by automated services. That's why I do it. Same with self-service tills in the supermarket, I never use them either, I'd rather queue a little longer and have a chat with the till person.

RJ
_________________
Rick - Admin
Home:https://www.oldclassiccar.co.uk
Videos:https://www.youtube.com/user/oldclassiccarRJ/videos
OCC & classic car merchandise (Austin, Ford ++):
https://www.redbubble.com/people/OldClassicCar/shop
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Ronniej



Joined: 02 Dec 2008
Posts: 239
Location: Blackwood, by Lanark, Scotland

PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 9:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is sad to see how few independent filling stations are still operating.
The passing of the local business as described by Des is particularly regrettable.
The supermarkets have a lot to answer for.
As a student in the mid-sixties I supplemented my income by working in a local filling station in Glasgow’s south side.
This was before the advent of self-service sites and I had to dispense the fuel and offer to check oil and water as oil sales were important. We were also encouraged to promote one shot of Redex per gallon at 1d each. An airline was available free of charge and some customers would request that I would also check their tyres. This often resulted in a tip so we were happy to do it.
We quickly learned the eccentricities of various cars. The Farina Oxfords / Cambridges were notoriously slow fillers and would spurt back readily unless the nozzle was inserted almost upside down which got it past a tight bend in the filler tube.
Corsairs had their filler caps hidden behind the rear number plate and the Rover 2000 (?) had the filler cap behind a rear reflector.
I recall a customer coming in with a French car, probably a Dauphine, that filled within the engine compartment. His starter was faulty and he asked me to fill it with the engine running!!! As a youth I was not adverse to risk but I drew the line at that!
At this time competition between oil companies was fierce and there were often vigorous advertising campaigns.
This was a Shell site and we had the “Make Money” campaign where customers were given an envelope containing half of a monopoly style banknote. If they subsequently got the other half they would win the value. This was enormously popular and we were very busy indeed while that campaign ran. Around the same time Esso had their “Put a Tiger in Your Tank” promotion which seems to have stuck in the public memory better.
This was shortly before petrol had the star rating and the grades were Shellmex, (basic) Shell, (mid) and Super the top grade. During one summer, Shell ran a shameful TV campaign to promote the alleged benefits of using Super although what it would do for a Minor or similar basic car is debatable.
In the course of this employment I was asked to clear out a storeroom and scores of oil cans and bottles and some old tin plate signs were consigned to the tip. These were regarded as junk back then but would now be eagerly sought after by collectors.
Ah nostalgia! It’s just not what it used to be!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Classic cars forum & vehicle restoration. Forum Index -> Classic & Vintage Cars, Lorries, Vans, Motorcycles etc - General Chat All times are GMT + 1 Hour
Goto page 1, 2  Next
Page 1 of 2

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
OCC Merch link
Forum T&C


php BB powered © php BB Grp.