classic car forum header
Classic cars forum & vehicle restoration.
 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 
Register     Posting Photographs     Privacy     F/book OCC Facebook     OCC on Patreon

A 50 year old puzzle solved today.
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Classic cars forum & vehicle restoration. Forum Index -> Classic & Vintage Cars, Lorries, Vans, Motorcycles etc - General Chat
Author Message
Ellis



Joined: 07 Mar 2011
Posts: 1386
Location: Betws y Coed, North Wales

PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2016 9:59 pm    Post subject: A 50 year old puzzle solved today. Reply with quote

[img]

An Austin A35 van, interesting, but why show a photo of one in the General Section? Many of you will know that production continued into 1968 but what intrigued me for years is why there were so many A30 and A35 vans in my area in the 1960s and early 1970s with Worcestershire FK registration letters.

Not only that but I remember in 1968 seeing many "early" Minis, always saloons with new "F" registrations on cars which were clearly years older than the 1968 numbers on them.
I have pondered this for years, asked questions and not receiving satisfactory replies.

But I have had an explanation today to both puzzles and both were provided by the owner of a late 1959 Austin A35. He lives about twenty miles away near Corwen in North Wales close to what was once a thriving motor retail business - Thomas Motor Mart or correctly HG thomas Motors Ltd. He worked there part time at weekends to make a little extra money.
Mr Thomas and my late father were long acquainted and he bought several new cars from him - Minis, the Wolseley 18/85 in 1969. I bought my first car there as well and my mother a new 1982 Metro 1.3 HLS.

Primarily a BMC/BL garage he also had several acres of used cars and light commercials.

The Austin A30/35 vans sold by him in large numbers were, I was told today, formerly owned by Great Universal Stores which changed their vehicles at 3 years old. They were disposed of in a south Birmingham auction centre by closed auction which suggests some form of lease agreement between BMC and GUS.
Most of the vans were grey but others were dark blue and dark green.
They were still being sold until 1971 at HG Motors Ltd.

The "old" model Minis on new "F" registrations were also bought by Mr Thomas at a closed auction. They were all unregistered factory runabouts around Longbridge. Many of them were "paint defect" cars or failed final inspection when new. All the ones I saw around here had Birmingham "OB. OC, OD ........." registration letters.

HG Thomas Motors took a Vauxhall franchise as well in the late 1960s at another site and that might also explain the number of used Bedford HA vans with Cheshire and Luton registration numbers in the area................

An enterprising an ultimately a very wealthy man. No longer with us I'm afraid.[/img]
_________________
Starting Handle Expert

1964 Jaguar Mark 2 3.4 litre
1962 Land Rover Series 2a 88"
2002 BMW M3 E46 Cabriolet
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Rick
Site Admin


Joined: 27 Apr 2005
Posts: 22829
Location: UK

PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2016 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting how job lots of cars can move around in that way.

Do the old premises survive still?

RJ
_________________
Rick - Admin
Home:https://www.oldclassiccar.co.uk
Videos:https://www.youtube.com/user/oldclassiccarRJ/videos
OCC & classic car merchandise (Austin, Ford ++):
https://www.redbubble.com/people/OldClassicCar/shop
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Ellis



Joined: 07 Mar 2011
Posts: 1386
Location: Betws y Coed, North Wales

PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2016 10:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rick wrote:


Do the old premises survive still?

RJ


Yes, two miles or so along the A494 following the junction of the A5 at Maerdy.
The place still operates as a garage but a mere shadow of the thriving business it once was. It looks rundown and shabby now and not the pristine establishment I remember.
_________________
Starting Handle Expert

1964 Jaguar Mark 2 3.4 litre
1962 Land Rover Series 2a 88"
2002 BMW M3 E46 Cabriolet
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
lowdrag



Joined: 10 Apr 2009
Posts: 1600
Location: Le Mans

PostPosted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 6:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You have answered a question for me too, so thank you. In the early 60s a member of the darts team in Hampshire had a green A35 van registered 29 FFK.Fit's in with your story.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Classic cars forum & vehicle restoration. Forum Index -> Classic & Vintage Cars, Lorries, Vans, Motorcycles etc - General Chat All times are GMT + 1 Hour
Page 1 of 1

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
OCC Merch link
Forum T&C


php BB powered © php BB Grp.