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Rootes75
Joined: 30 Apr 2013 Posts: 4170 Location: The Somerset Levels
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Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2016 11:13 am Post subject: Combat Dealers |
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Flicking around the channels yesterday we watched a couple episodes of Combat Dealers. One was very interesting, they viewed a Merc that was once used by Adolf himself. They found it in Leicester of all places.
Anyone else interested in military vehicle preservation? _________________ Various Rootes Vehicles. |
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Dipster
Joined: 06 Jan 2015 Posts: 408 Location: UK, France and Portugal - unless I am travelling....
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Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2016 1:18 pm Post subject: |
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As interesting vehicles, yes. But I am not in to the war thing at all. The real thing is so terrible. |
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Ashley
Joined: 02 Jan 2008 Posts: 1426 Location: Near Stroud, Glos
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Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2016 1:27 pm Post subject: |
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Dipster wrote: | As interesting vehicles, yes. But I am not in to the war thing at all. The real thing is so terrible. |
I have that trouble. I'm seventy so grew up in its wake when one could miss the effect it had on everyone involved. No one except the BBC of course who've lectured on it ever since. |
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Rootes75
Joined: 30 Apr 2013 Posts: 4170 Location: The Somerset Levels
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Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2016 1:38 pm Post subject: |
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I suppose I think differently about it, I grew up with stories from my Grandfathers so both my brother and I were fascinated. We are both in our forties now and are both still interested. _________________ Various Rootes Vehicles. |
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Rick Site Admin

Joined: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 22780 Location: UK
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Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2016 2:26 pm Post subject: Re: Combat Dealers |
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Rootes75 wrote: | ... they viewed a Merc that was once used by Adolf himself. They found it in Leicester of all places.
Anyone else interested in military vehicle preservation? |
Probably one of Kevin Wheatcroft's vehicles, the episode rings a bell actually, I watch it from time to time. We went to KW's farm once, while we didn't get to see his buildings full of memorabilia, there were a few interesting artefacts dotted around outside.
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Ray White

Joined: 02 Dec 2014 Posts: 7076 Location: Derby
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Dipster
Joined: 06 Jan 2015 Posts: 408 Location: UK, France and Portugal - unless I am travelling....
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Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2017 10:04 am Post subject: |
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Ray White wrote: | https://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2016/12/22/european-collectors-restricted-from-buying-tanks-other-vintage-military-vehicles/
What do you guys think about this? |
I can see the logic in this.
We, and many other countries, restrict ownership of guns. Many countries restrict ownership of items such as bullet proof jackets and armoured cars (civilian type cars) to protect society. So why not military cast offs?
It is just a reflection of the sad state of affairs in the world. Having said that may I wish you all a happy, peaceful and healthy new year. |
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Rootes75
Joined: 30 Apr 2013 Posts: 4170 Location: The Somerset Levels
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Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2017 12:42 pm Post subject: |
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There is logic in this but to be honest, tanks and the like are so expensive they are already restricted to only the very serious and wealthy collectors. They aren't available to the likes of us.
I would quite like a small WW2 truck, probably of the types my Grandfather drove. _________________ Various Rootes Vehicles. |
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Riley Blue
Joined: 18 Jun 2008 Posts: 1751 Location: Derbyshire
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Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2017 1:49 pm Post subject: |
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I wish someone would explain the logic to me because I can't see any. As far as I know, no historic military vehicle has ever been used in a terrorist attack in Europe, nor can I visualise any scenario in which one might be used. _________________ David
1963 Riley 1.5
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mikeC

Joined: 31 Jul 2009 Posts: 1808 Location: Market Warsop, Nottinghamshire
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Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2017 2:34 pm Post subject: |
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If I had terrorist tendencies, I don't think I would be looking at arming myself with some ancient firearm when modern weaponry is so readily available.
This is a bit like the FIA tinkering with the Formula One rules whilst completely missing the fundamental problems. _________________ in the garage: 1938 Talbot Ten Airline
Recently departed: 1953 Lancia Appia, 1931 Austin Seven, 1967 Singer Chamois, 1914 Saxon, 1930 Morris Cowley, 1936 BSA Scout, 1958 Lancia Appia coupe, 1922 Star 11.9 ... the list goes on! |
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Peter_L
Joined: 10 Apr 2008 Posts: 2680 Location: New Brunswick. Canada.
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Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2017 3:28 pm Post subject: |
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mikeC wrote: | If I had terrorist tendencies, I don't think I would be looking at arming myself with some ancient firearm when modern weaponry is so readily available.
This is a bit like the FIA tinkering with the Formula One rules whilst completely missing the fundamental problems. |
and then there is the FIFA/Poppy debacle. All three are perfect examples of a 1970's idea that grew into a bureaucratic monster.
I am not aware of a (vehicle related) terrorist atrocity that was carried out with anything other than a modern (vehicle) car, van, truck, or plane. |
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Ray White

Joined: 02 Dec 2014 Posts: 7076 Location: Derby
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Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2017 4:32 pm Post subject: |
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I think this directive has everything to do with weapons and nothing at all to do with vehicles (or armour for that matter) which is why I was surprised that FIVA would be alarmed.
As I see it this is just another example of the E.U. being out of touch with reality. Do they really imagine a terrorist paying out huge sums on a WW2 museum artefact in order to spend even more re activating it and yet more cash on getting obsolete ammunition made specially for it then having to transport the thing to somewhere that it can cause havoc when all they need to do is shoot the driver of a truck and drive it into a crowd?
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billysugga
Joined: 01 Jan 2017 Posts: 55 Location: Carlisle
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Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2017 7:02 pm Post subject: |
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Very true .i like military vehicles but don't dress the part( but don't mind people that do ,that is their choice) I have 2 a Volvo sugga and a Volvo trygge.
Military vehicle collectors are a varied bunch but are quite interesting. |
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Keith D
Joined: 16 Oct 2008 Posts: 1164 Location: Upper Swan, Western Australia
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Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2017 3:45 am Post subject: |
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Dad's first car (1950) was a wartime Commer utility (I think you call them a pick-up truck) I believe it was ex-RAF and had been used in the Western Desert. However, I could be corrected on that! It was virtually a Hillman Minx utility with an army type canvas canopy on the back. We had that for years and I was very sorry when Dad moved it on in the mid-fifties. (Swapped it for an Austin Seven Ruby!)
I would be very happy to have a restored example of that Commer in my driveway. Not so much for it's military history, but because it formed such a powerful part of my own childhood!
Keith _________________ 1926 Chrysler 60 tourer
1932 Austin Seven RN long wheelbase box sedan
1950 Austin A40 tourer
1999 BMW Z3
Its weird being the same age as old people.
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Ashley
Joined: 02 Jan 2008 Posts: 1426 Location: Near Stroud, Glos
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Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2017 11:12 am Post subject: |
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Keith D wrote: | Dad's first car (1950) was a wartime Commer utility (I think you call them a pick-up truck) I believe it was ex-RAF and had been used in the Western Desert. However, I could be corrected on that! It was virtually a Hillman Minx utility with an army type canvas canopy on the back. We had that for years and I was very sorry when Dad moved it on in the mid-fifties. (Swapped it for an Austin Seven Ruby!)
I would be very happy to have a restored example of that Commer in my driveway. Not so much for it's military history, but because it formed such a powerful part of my own childhood!
Keith |
It probably had a lower axle ratio and bigger tyres/wheels |
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