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Gearbox oil for a 1912 car
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 3:04 pm    Post subject: Gearbox oil for a 1912 car Reply with quote

I'm having gearchange problems, 95% driver related I'm sure, but a gearbox oil change is probably overdue. Do I fill up with 20w50 as some say was done then or go for EP90? The gearbox was fully restored in the 1990s.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 3:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd be very careful to choose the correct grade for something of that age - if no-one in the VCC can advise, I'd suggest contacting someone like Penrite to see what they recommend for vintage/veteran machines

http://www.penrite.co.uk/nextpage.php?navlink=contact

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Had a long chat with John at Penrite Oils.

I opened by asking "I've just bought an old car you've probably never heard of and need some advice on oils". His response was "uh hu" which I was less than enthused about so I added "it's a 1912 Alldays". He immediately brightened up[ and explained that he gets people phoning looking for oil for "a very old car - it's a Hillman Minx" and he was delighted to chat with someone with a car only slightly younger than his (his is 1901).

Anyway, much chat and driving advice later I had my wallet lightened to the tune of LOADS and about 40 litres of egnine, gearbox and axle oil is on its way!
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah, so which Veteran does John have?

I know your alldays is a little young for the london to brighton, but it is coming up shortly, I was chatting to my mate about it today, he takes a few cars down every year. Are you thinking to go and have a look?

I wouldn't mind, but not sure if it will be this year!

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am hoping to get an invite one day as my car is only 1 of 3 known examples of the model (so I'm told by the VCC). If I could date the car from the radiator it'd be 100 yrs old this year!

What I need are some driving lessons!
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

I think my mate has a 1901 Albion, and a 1899 Star booked in, other than that I am not to sure.

Be good if you can get an invite, surely the club can offer something in the driving training area.

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Dave
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sadly Dave Richard's car is too new - and I bet he never thought he'd ever hear that comment about the old girl!

The cut-off date is 1904, so it would be ineligible to be included into this event, however as you say maybe he could get invited to join one of the cars as a passenger. There's a 1904 Alldays listed for this year, wouldn't it be excellent if he could get a seat on that car. Very Happy

Or any one for that matter - any spare seats going on the Albion? Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wasn't there a bit of a 'to do' a few years back, when they amended the regs, and slightly later cars suddenly became eligible?? and the decision was reversed shortly afterwards?

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 11:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Not sure about that, all I know is the cut off date is 1905, they did decrease the minimum age of entries to the Veteran Car Club, but that was a while back, is up to and including Dec 1918?

Is the London to Brighton strictly pre 1905, or can rare examples like rdover's be formally invited even if it is outside the limit. Maybe I have imagined this! Embarassed

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 6:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Dave,

The 1904 date is inclusive right up to 31st Dec 1904, so perhaps theres a bit of leeway given to vehicle registered in 1905 but owners can prove it was actually built in 1904 using factory production numbers, etc. However like Rick mentions, there was all sorts of grief a short time ago when dates were changed - wasn't there some kind of national "oldies" campaign to re-instate the dates back to what they were.
All that said Dave, I may very well have my 1904 date wrong and 1905 it is, perhaps Richard or one of the other guys here can add to the thread.

And "Formal invitation" sounds quite possible, after all there are some stunning examples of early, but not pre-1904/5 motor vehicles out there that wouldn't normally be accepted - my 1957 Chevy with all its tasteful chrome and "in your face" paint would be a likely contender! Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 9:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

I think your date sounds right to me, pre 1905 is basically up to 31 dec 1904.

One of my dreams is to take part in this rally, one day one day! hehe Laughing

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 10:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

would a penny farthing of suitable vintage get you in?

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

I think it has to be a car, but could be worth cycling around at the start and end!

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The dates for the London to Brighton Run are manufactured prior to 1st Jan 1905. This date is immutable although in 2002 the MSA (who's Run it is) decided to raise it to 1907 much to the consternation of many. 4 months later (and only 3 months before the LBVCR) they changed it back.
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