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Ray White

Joined: 02 Dec 2014 Posts: 7073 Location: Derby
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Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 12:14 pm Post subject: Bad driving. |
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This kind of driving; on the pavement, does our hobby no favours. |
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Rick Site Admin

Joined: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 22778 Location: UK
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Riley Blue
Joined: 18 Jun 2008 Posts: 1751 Location: Derbyshire
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Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 2:09 pm Post subject: |
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I've no idea where that is but it might have been under the direction of the police - I've been directed the wrong way down a one-way street before. _________________ David
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Ray White

Joined: 02 Dec 2014 Posts: 7073 Location: Derby
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ukdave2002
Joined: 23 Nov 2007 Posts: 4229 Location: South Cheshire
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Riley Blue
Joined: 18 Jun 2008 Posts: 1751 Location: Derbyshire
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Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 3:26 pm Post subject: |
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The evidence so far points to gross stupidity on the part of some participants. _________________ David
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alastairq
Joined: 14 Oct 2016 Posts: 2116 Location: East Yorkshire
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Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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When presented with valid evidence, the organisers can take action, within the confines of the event & its rules.
I belong to the MCC.
On any trial run by the MCC, there are rules a competitor must abide by.
Some of those rules concern driving standards.
Some also take Highway Code rules one step further.
There are Officials,and Travelling Marshals who....amongst other things, are tasked with observing the driving standards of competitors.
The Officials & Travelling MArshals are considered, by the Club, as 'Judges-of-Fact'.
Sanctions against a competitor in such circumstances, can be, 'exclusion' from the event. Amongst other actions.
I presume the Organisers of this run also have similar rules.......and, it is hoped, for the sake of public relations, they do take action against the competitors involved.
Ultimately it is up to the local Constabulary to investigate matters reported, if the wish is to have noted competitors appear before a Magistrate?
We must beware, however, of screaming 'it shouldn't be allowed' in a high pitched voice. |
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Ray White

Joined: 02 Dec 2014 Posts: 7073 Location: Derby
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Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 8:18 pm Post subject: |
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Probably the most effective remedy would be a quiet word from the organisers. |
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Paul fairall
Joined: 17 Nov 2016 Posts: 429 Location: North west Kent
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Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 8:31 pm Post subject: |
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Ray White wrote: | Probably the most effective remedy would be a quiet word from the organisers. | or maybe cocoa and chocolate biscuits. Listen to yourself. If this is someone who cannot wait with the slower cars and not by direction of the police then I see this as some toffee nosed git who thinks he is above the law and deserves to be banned and is not much better than these snot nosed kids on scooters robbing people. Just because he's driving a vintage or veteran car shouldn't make him exempt. _________________ 1957 ford popular |
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Ray White

Joined: 02 Dec 2014 Posts: 7073 Location: Derby
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Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 8:35 pm Post subject: |
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Paul fairall wrote: | Ray White wrote: | Probably the most effective remedy would be a quiet word from the organisers. | or maybe cocoa and chocolate biscuits. Listen to yourself. If this is someone who cannot wait with the slower cars and not by direction of the police then I see this as some toffee nosed git who thinks he is above the law and deserves to be banned and is not much better than these snot nosed kids on scooters robbing people. Just because he's driving a vintage or veteran car shouldn't make him exempt. |
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Paul fairall
Joined: 17 Nov 2016 Posts: 429 Location: North west Kent
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Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 9:37 pm Post subject: |
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Ray White wrote: | Paul fairall wrote: | Ray White wrote: | Probably the most effective remedy would be a quiet word from the organisers. | or maybe cocoa and chocolate biscuits. Listen to yourself. If this is someone who cannot wait with the slower cars and not by direction of the police then I see this as some toffee nosed git who thinks he is above the law and deserves to be banned and is not much better than these snot nosed kids on scooters robbing people. Just because he's driving a vintage or veteran car shouldn't make him exempt. |
No need to take that tone with me.  | come on Ray, a quiet word indeed _________________ 1957 ford popular |
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Ray White

Joined: 02 Dec 2014 Posts: 7073 Location: Derby
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Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 10:01 pm Post subject: |
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The quiet threat of exclusion from any further participation in the run should be enough to bring the errant driver to his senses. The Run is usually oversubscribed anyway, so the mere threat of a ban from future entries should be enough, I would have thought. These cars only fetch the inflated price that they do because they are pre 1905 and 'Brighton" eligible. They are of little interest to anyone who does not want to participate (apart from dealers of course) so the threat of suspension from future VCC events would have a salient effect on all but the most arrogant member.
Even the embarrassing consequences of being "named and shamed" would be enough for most entrants to toe the line.
Getting the law involved with all the adverse publicity that a prosecution would attract really ought to be avoided if possible.
Quietly, quietly, catchy monkey! |
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alastairq
Joined: 14 Oct 2016 Posts: 2116 Location: East Yorkshire
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Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 10:02 pm Post subject: |
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A quiet word may well be...goodbye, don't darken our entry forms again?
Of course, if it's a public lynching you're after, then by all means, go ahead....but do make sure you won't be throwing stones in glass houses?
The Organisers will have the facts to hand. If you like, keep an eye out for the outcomes of any disciplinary actions?
Why not report the matter yourself to the Constabulary?
Come to that...if the Local Authorities can close major public roads to traffic for the sake of a bunch of push-bike riders, why wasn't the same done for this annual event?
The Organisers won't like the adverse publicity, on top of the nasty crash.
Don't forget, the organisers want to be able to repeat this event again & again....and a blatant contravention of the Highway Code, on the part of a competitor, will not be taken lightly.
On a recent trial, a competitor who failed to dip their headlights in as sensitive area [despite written notices in the route book] found themselves excluded from the event.
But the outcome isn't 'made public'.....the last thing any organizers wants is to air their dirty laundry in public.....Sadly all forms of motor sport or competition has to be more & more conscious of their public image.
Edit...Sorry, Ray, typed the post, then the front doorbell went....... |
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Paul fairall
Joined: 17 Nov 2016 Posts: 429 Location: North west Kent
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Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 10:40 pm Post subject: |
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I assume these " push bike riders " you talk of are professional cyclists with the uci behind them. A bunch of old duffers driving antiquated " cars " don't command enough interest for advertisers to fund events. The most you see of the London to Brighton is a few seconds on the news. If they continue to drive on the pavement, they may get more exposure, ah maybe that was the idea. _________________ 1957 ford popular |
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Rick Site Admin

Joined: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 22778 Location: UK
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