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1.5ran



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 10:53 pm    Post subject: HELP leaking windows Reply with quote

on my commer pb 2500 Crying or Very sad any tips or advise on repair I cannot find any info on how the windows are put together or details of componants used the wood is getting damp now....does any one specialise in repairing them or is it something I could easily do myself ?
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 11:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Might be worth trying to photograph the offending window(s) and putting the pics on here, to better describe the layout of your glazing, including seals etc

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 10:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had the dreaded wet wood syndrome on my Safari Caravan and totally rebuilt the front end.

I have a album of pictures of how I did it at:

http://rides.webshots.com/album/550745591apQZvX?vhost=rides

If you are reasonably competent with wood work it is not too hard. Just take lots of measurements as you take bits off. You should be prepared to go a lot further into the structure than you originally think, and use plenty of a non-setting sealant when putting the window back in.
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1.5ran



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 10:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you for the replies Smile I will take a few pic's & post them here.
Wow nice job on the safari fancy a challenge lol...I think it maybe too big a job for me Embarassed what is the non setting sealant you used?
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the offending window
I have pulled out the plastic channels cleaned & dried them....what sealant should I use ?
the wood hasn't suffererd too much at all I have been told you have to keep the drain holes clear of debris but thats all I know.

the darker piece of wood is temporay until I can find a matching piece it sits on the cooker top.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 12:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From what I can see, the aluminium window frame is simply screwed to the steel van side, and the screw heads covered with the rubber infill strip. If that is the case it should be possible to unscrew the windows as a complete unit, clean up the steel edges and reseal using a proprietory windscreen sealant.
I'm guessing that the leak is between frame and body rather than window and frame, as it was on my Marina Suntor.

cheers
Iain
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1.5ran



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Iain,The leak was in fact between the frame & glass,I have given the plastic channels & inside the frame a good clean,the channels appear to just be there to enable the glass to slide ?I presume the sealant stops them leaking?not the channels?
well I seem to have been able to do it myself easy when you know how Embarassed
Idea I have another van with better condition windows,mine have what appear to be chips but on closer inspection I would say some one has been welding very close to the windows!
thanks for the replies,I will keep you posted on my progress Very Happy
are there any pic's of your marina suntour Question is it on the road ??
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 12:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,
Sorry for the poor photo, its the only one I can find on the computer. Its when I moved house 2 years ago and it worked out cheaper to hire the car transporter than to take them all one by one....Shocked

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It does however show the problem I was having with the side windows, which was rust on the body side due to the alluminium window frame not sealing to the body I'd already took the side you can see out, and treated and resprayed it, which is why it was a different shade around there. The door was in primer too. I've since painted the whole vehicle so its all harvest gold, but had an odd paint reaction on the bonnet top and top of the front wings, so that needs doing again...
I've not had the camper on the road this year due to getting distracted with the Carcruiser caravan we acquired but hope to get it inside and the paint sorted over the winter. Another job on the list!

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Iain
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 12:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's an excellent picture Very Happy they are all morris's inc pick-up black at the bottom of transporter?
not sure our fleet would fit on there Shocked
mini
mini pick-up
3 x commer pb's
austin a 60
Tina savage replica
2x riley 1.5's
umm best not move house any time soon Shocked
you must post some more pic's.....
ps what was the lorry ?
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 8:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hehe yeah thats a great pic Smile

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 12:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,
The problem with the car transporter was that all the vehicles had to drive on under there own power. It was a bit of a struggle to find 8 runners... The lowlight Minor on the back end barely managed to drag itself on, and the blue one on the lower deck didn't have any brakes either! The real hopeless cases I had to tow down myself on a trailer behind the Land Rover. These included the Morris J type, the swb Series 1 Land Rover and a load more really sad Minors.
On the top deck, the green Marina had a knackered clutch and had to take a long run up to get enough momentum to get that far! The grey Minor is a friends car that I had in for welding at the time (should have seen his face when I showed him that pic! Very Happy ) and the GRP top on the Marina pickup had a ratchet strap round it to make sure it stayed on... The Green Marina and the black minor pickup have now moved on. Still got the rest though.

Lorry was a Foden btw. From a local (well local to here now) haulage company in Leominster. Still see it about now and again. We got a lot of funny looks on the journey from Sheffield to Worcestershire Smile



Yeah, I don't intend moving again. There was also the 17 ton flat bed with hiab for the workshop equipment, and the 7.5 ton self drive box van for all the spares and sundry items. Then a Mercedes Sprinter a couple of weeks later for the final 'sweeping up'. Oh what fun Confused Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 8:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

I think we need a picture of your workshop! hehe Laughing

Cheers

Dave
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1.5ran



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 12:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's a great story to go with a great picture Laughing
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