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Rick Site Admin

Joined: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 22795 Location: UK
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Penman
Joined: 23 Nov 2007 Posts: 4871 Location: Swindon, Wilts.
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poodge
Joined: 23 Nov 2007 Posts: 687
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Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 3:27 am Post subject: |
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| Re the Fiat Supersonic,I just read an old mag which showed a Jaguar XK120 based Supersonic.Virtually the same body.I actually prefer it to the original Jag.Did the Z stand for Zagato? |
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Job-Rated

Joined: 23 Nov 2007 Posts: 1010 Location: Sugarbeet County
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Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 12:01 pm Post subject: |
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I couldn't tell you, but I would imagine that's the case. _________________ Don't run your fingers over my truck & I won't run my truck over your fingers!
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Rick Site Admin

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Mog
Joined: 30 Dec 2007 Posts: 663 Location: Sydney
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Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 6:47 am Post subject: |
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| It is a Morgan 3-wheeler, the model maybe a Grand Prix about 1922. The petrol tank and oil tank were made into the bonnet. The problem in later years was, that the petrol tank would rust out and be a major job to fix. It is not easy to see the engine, but it could be an M.A.G. At the 1913 Show, orders were taken for 700 cars, 150 going to France. They were listed for sale up till 1926. The models Aero and Super Aero were in more demand, after that time. |
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buzzy bee

Joined: 23 Nov 2007 Posts: 3382 Location: South Cheshire
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Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 8:35 am Post subject: |
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Hi
Mog, did the morgans not have an interesting chain drive system??
Cheers
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pigtin
Joined: 23 Nov 2007 Posts: 1879 Location: Herne Bay
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Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 11:42 am Post subject: |
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You may be thinking of the Frazer-Nash. That had a very interesting chain system.
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Mog
Joined: 30 Dec 2007 Posts: 663 Location: Sydney
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Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 2:41 am Post subject: |
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| I owned four 2- speeders and one 3-speeder. From the engine , on the 2-speeder, the drive went to a cone clutch, which liked a hand full of grease now and again, the prop shaft ran in an enclosed tube to the bevel box. At the bevel box there was a cross shaft that had two sliding dogs on it .There was a chain each side of the rear wheel to give different ratios. The family Morgans had lower gear ratios. The 3-speeders had gear box in place of the bevel box, which also gave reverse. There was a worm and worm wheel in this box, and the final drive was one chain. |
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pigtin
Joined: 23 Nov 2007 Posts: 1879 Location: Herne Bay
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Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 11:15 am Post subject: |
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Thats what I like about this forum, I seem to learn something new every day. I had never given much thought the the drive system of a Morgan: always thought it to be similar to a conventional chain drive motorcycle.
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Mog
Joined: 30 Dec 2007 Posts: 663 Location: Sydney
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Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 2:52 am Post subject: |
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| On a lot of the earlier models, the exhaust went through the two main chassis tubes. Which of course rotted away... Also the prop shaft was made up by soft soldering the ends into a piece of tube, no rivets ! |
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pigtin
Joined: 23 Nov 2007 Posts: 1879 Location: Herne Bay
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Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 11:41 am Post subject: |
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It all starts to come back now. In about 1961 one of the apprentices where I worked bought something resembling a chicken-shed on wheels, I remember him labouriously constructing gaskets out of copper sheet during his lunchtimes and actually making a new spur gear for the speedo drive from a piece of SRBF. It proved reliable transport for many months until (If my memory serves me correctly) the chassis collapsed. The vehicle had been an early Morgan with a homebuilt saloon body... The good news is that he sold the wreckage to a marque enthusiast for ,what seemed at the time a ridiculously high price.
It's strange to think that that 'comical mobile chicken shed' is probably a gleaming, valuable and cherished vehicle now.
Often wonder what happened to it, and the apprentice, who was a brilliant engineer.
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Mog
Joined: 30 Dec 2007 Posts: 663 Location: Sydney
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| I did my 5 years for Richard Thomas & Baldwins, aka British Steel, at Brockmoor, about the same time. We had 2 weeks works holiday, so we would go to Wales and watch it rain for 2 weeks and then go back to work for another 12 months ! My apprenticeship finished in the Sept. in Nov. I was on a boat to Aussie. I have been back to the UK twice, most of my family are out here now. Out of the 13 apprentices that started, I am still in contact with two of them. |
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pigtin
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Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 11:16 am Post subject: |
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Some of us are wishing we had done the same thing (go to OZ that is)  |
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Rick Site Admin

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