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Southernscouse
Joined: 30 May 2024 Posts: 28 Location: Havant Hampshire
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Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2026 8:03 am Post subject: Handbrake |
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Is anyone familiar with the Austin Devon handbrake on the fully hydraulic cars
The brake shoes are good and adjusted but the handbrake is still rubbish
The whole design with its sliding wedge mechanism seems to lack any power to hold the van on any incline |
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alastairq
Joined: 14 Oct 2016 Posts: 2278 Location: East Yorkshire
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Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2026 10:06 am Post subject: |
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I ran the question through google, and it came up with the following:-
| Quote: | Austin Devon handbrake on the fully hydraulic cars:
On late-production Austin A40 Devon (GS3 models) built from late 1951, Austin upgraded the vehicle to a fully hydraulic Girling braking system on all four wheels, abandoning the earlier "hydro-mech" setup (which featured hydraulic front brakes and mechanical, rod-operated rear brakes).
How the Handbrake Operates on Fully Hydraulic Cars
Even though the foot pedal operates hydraulically on all four wheels via fluid pressure, UK construction and use regulations strictly required a secondary, completely independent mechanical link for the parking brake.
On the fully hydraulic Austin Devon, the handbrake setup functions as follows:
? The Cabin Control: A dashboard-mounted, pistol-grip handbrake lever is located in the cabin.
? The Linkage: Pulling the pistol-grip lever pulls a short cable connected to a long mechanical lever. From this lever, a solid metal rod runs back to a relay lever positioned near the rear spring anchorage. A final cable then links this relay lever to a mechanical compensator mounted on the rear axle.
? At the Rear Brake Drums: The mechanical compensator pulls on transverse (side-to-side) rods that enter the backplate of each rear wheel. Inside the drum, these rods operate mechanical wedge expanders built directly into the rear wheel hydraulic cylinders. This forces the brake shoes outward against the drums mechanically, bypassing the hydraulic fluid entirely.
Key Maintenance & Adjusting Rules
Because of this clever dual-action setup (hydraulic for the foot pedal, mechanical wedge for the handbrake), adjusting the rear brakes correctly is critical:
? Snail Cam vs. Square Adjusters: The upgraded front brakes use a separate snail-cam adjuster for each shoe. The rear brakes utilize square-ended adjuster bolts on the backplates.
? How to Adjust: To adjust the rear setup, tighten the square-ended adjusters fully until the shoes lock against the drum, then back them off exactly two clicks. Once backed off, press the foot pedal hard to properly centralize the shoes inside the drum.
? No Separate Handbrake Adjustment: There is no individual cable adjustment for the handbrake. Getting the shoe-to-drum tolerance correct via the square adjusters sets the correct travel for both the foot pedal and the mechanical handbrake linkage automatically.
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Possibly the linkages and pins need cleaning out and lubricating? _________________ Dellow Mk2, 1951 built, reg 1952.
Fiat 126 BIS
Cannon special [1996 registered. Built in 1950's]
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alastairq
Joined: 14 Oct 2016 Posts: 2278 Location: East Yorkshire
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Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2026 10:09 am Post subject: |
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post deleted, see below _________________ Dellow Mk2, 1951 built, reg 1952.
Fiat 126 BIS
Cannon special [1996 registered. Built in 1950's]
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Ford Pop chassis, Ashley 1172 bodyshell, in pieces.
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alastairq
Joined: 14 Oct 2016 Posts: 2278 Location: East Yorkshire
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Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2026 10:11 am Post subject: |
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post deleted....trying to get to grips with SQL error messages, sorry _________________ Dellow Mk2, 1951 built, reg 1952.
Fiat 126 BIS
Cannon special [1996 registered. Built in 1950's]
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Ford Pop chassis, Ashley 1172 bodyshell, in pieces.
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alastairq
Joined: 14 Oct 2016 Posts: 2278 Location: East Yorkshire
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Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2026 10:13 am Post subject: |
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Post deleted, see above, sorry _________________ Dellow Mk2, 1951 built, reg 1952.
Fiat 126 BIS
Cannon special [1996 registered. Built in 1950's]
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Ford Pop chassis, Ashley 1172 bodyshell, in pieces.
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alastairq
Joined: 14 Oct 2016 Posts: 2278 Location: East Yorkshire
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Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2026 10:15 am Post subject: |
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[quote] A sticky handbrake linkage is a classic headache on the late-model fully hydraulic Austin Devons. Because the system relies on a hybrid combination of a short front cable, a long chassis rod, a chassis relay lever, an axle cable, and a mechanical axle compensator, there are numerous mechanical pivot points exposed to road grime, moisture, and neglect.
When the system gets "sticky," the handbrake lever may feel tight to pull, fail to hold the car, or?most dangerously?fail to release properly, causing the rear drum brakes to bind, overheat, and prematurely wear out the shoes.
Step-by-Step Diagnostic & Fix Guide
To restore a smooth, snap-back operation, you need to isolate and service the components systematically.
1. Isolate the Problem.
Before cleaning anything, you must determine whether the stickiness is in the cabin lever, the chassis linkage, or inside the brake drums themselves.
? Jack up the rear of the car and support it safely on axle stands.
? Crawl underneath and disconnect the clevis pins where the transverse rods meet the mechanical axle compensator.
? Test the wheels: Spin the rear wheels by hand. If they spin freely now, your issue lies entirely in the chassis linkages or cables. If a wheel is still binding, the mechanical wedge expander inside that specific brake wheel cylinder is seized or gummed up with old grease and brake dust.
2. Service the Chassis Pivots & Relay Lever
The most common culprit is the chassis-mounted relay lever positioned near the rear spring anchorage. It sits directly in the path of road spray.
? Remove and clean: Unbolt the relay assembly. Decades of old grease turn into a hard, glue-like paste. Thoroughly clean the pivot pin and bushes using brake cleaner or paraffin.
? Inspect the Clevis Pins: Check every single clevis pin along the rod linkage. If they are worn "oval" or deeply grooved, they will bind under tension. Replace any deformed clevis pins to eradicate slack and binding.
? Lubricate: Reassemble the pivots using a high-quality chassis grease or anti-seize lubricant.
3. Free Up the Axle Compensator & Transverse Rods
The compensator unit sits directly on the rear axle housing. It features balance levers designed to distribute equal pulling force to both rear wheels.
? Locate the balance lever oiling point (often overlooked during routine maintenance).
? Clean out the old grease and grit from the compensator sliding mechanism.
? Liberally apply penetrating oil to free up the mechanism, then pack it with a clean, light grease that won't readily trap road dirt. Ensure the transverse rods can move smoothly side-to-side without catching.
4. Flush and Lubricate the Inner Cables
The short cable from the dashboard pistol-grip and the cable leading down to the axle compensator can dry out, rust, and fray internally.
? Check if the outer conduit wraps are split or kinked. If they are damaged, water ingress has likely ruined them, and you will need new handbrake cables.
? If they are intact but stiff, disconnect both ends of the cables. Use a dedicated cable-lubricator tool (common in classic motorcycle maintenance) or fashion a small funnel out of tape around the top of the cable housing. Pour penetrating oil or thin chain lube down the cable until it runs out cleanly at the bottom.
5. Address Internal Cylinder Wedge Expanders
If the stickiness was isolated to the wheel itself in Step 1, you must pull the brake drums.
? Inside the late Girling fully hydraulic rear cylinder, the handbrake pushes a mechanical wedge slider that physically spreads the brake shoes.
? These sliders frequently jam up if the dust boots have perished, allowing brake dust and moisture inside.
? Carefully remove the shoes and dismantle the mechanical slider portion of the cylinder. Clean thoroughly and apply a microscopic film of high-temperature copper anti-seize or specialized brake grease to the sliding wedge tracks. Do not over-grease, as any excess will contaminate your brake linings.
Factory Setup Trick on Reassembly
According to original Austin Service Journals, when you are ready to bolt everything back together, follow this exact sequence to ensure the handbrake doesn't bind:
1. Leave the linkages slightly disconnected or loose.
2. Go to the rear backing plates and tighten the square-ended brake adjusters hard up against the drums so the wheels are completely locked.
3. Go underneath the car and pull all the slack out of the mechanical rods and cables until they are taut, then connect and split-pin your linkages.
4. Back off the square wheel adjusters exactly two clicks , or until the wheels spin completely freely.
This ensures that the linkage is perfectly tensioned relative to the exact position of the shoes, giving you a sharp, highly effective handbrake that snaps fully off when released.
[/quote] _________________ Dellow Mk2, 1951 built, reg 1952.
Fiat 126 BIS
Cannon special [1996 registered. Built in 1950's]
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alastairq
Joined: 14 Oct 2016 Posts: 2278 Location: East Yorkshire
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Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2026 10:17 am Post subject: |
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Step-by-Step Diagnostic & Fix Guide
To restore a smooth, snap-back operation, you need to isolate and service the components systematically.
1. Isolate the Problem.
Before cleaning anything, you must determine whether the stickiness is in the cabin lever, the chassis linkage, or inside the brake drums themselves.
? Jack up the rear of the car and support it safely on axle stands.
? Crawl underneath and disconnect the clevis pins where the transverse rods meet the mechanical axle compensator.
? Test the wheels: Spin the rear wheels by hand. If they spin freely now, your issue lies entirely in the chassis linkages or cables. If a wheel is still binding, the mechanical wedge expander inside that specific brake wheel cylinder is seized or gummed up with old grease and brake dust.
2. Service the Chassis Pivots & Relay Lever
The most common culprit is the chassis-mounted relay lever positioned near the rear spring anchorage. It sits directly in the path of road spray.
? Remove and clean: Unbolt the relay assembly. Decades of old grease turn into a hard, glue-like paste. Thoroughly clean the pivot pin and bushes using brake cleaner or paraffin.
? Inspect the Clevis Pins: Check every single clevis pin along the rod linkage. If they are worn "oval" or deeply grooved, they will bind under tension. Replace any deformed clevis pins to eradicate slack and binding.
? Lubricate: Reassemble the pivots using a high-quality chassis grease or anti-seize lubricant.
3. Free Up the Axle Compensator & Transverse Rods
The compensator unit sits directly on the rear axle housing. It features balance levers designed to distribute equal pulling force to both rear wheels.
? Locate the balance lever oiling point (often overlooked during routine maintenance).
? Clean out the old grease and grit from the compensator sliding mechanism.
? Liberally apply penetrating oil to free up the mechanism, then pack it with a clean, light grease that won't readily trap road dirt. Ensure the transverse rods can move smoothly side-to-side without catching.
4. Flush and Lubricate the Inner Cables
The short cable from the dashboard pistol-grip and the cable leading down to the axle compensator can dry out, rust, and fray internally.
? Check if the outer conduit wraps are split or kinked. If they are damaged, water ingress has likely ruined them, and you will need new handbrake cables.
? If they are intact but stiff, disconnect both ends of the cables. Use a dedicated cable-lubricator tool (common in classic motorcycle maintenance) or fashion a small funnel out of tape around the top of the cable housing. Pour penetrating oil or thin chain lube down the cable until it runs out cleanly at the bottom.
5. Address Internal Cylinder Wedge Expanders
If the stickiness was isolated to the wheel itself in Step 1, you must pull the brake drums.
? Inside the late Girling fully hydraulic rear cylinder, the handbrake pushes a mechanical wedge slider that physically spreads the brake shoes.
? These sliders frequently jam up if the dust boots have perished, allowing brake dust and moisture inside.
? Carefully remove the shoes and dismantle the mechanical slider portion of the cylinder. Clean thoroughly and apply a microscopic film of high-temperature copper anti-seize or specialized brake grease to the sliding wedge tracks. Do not over-grease, as any excess will contaminate your brake linings.
Factory Setup Trick on Reassembly
According to original Austin Service Journals, when you are ready to bolt everything back together, follow this exact sequence to ensure the handbrake doesn't bind:
1. Leave the linkages slightly disconnected or loose.
2. Go to the rear backing plates and tighten the square-ended brake adjusters hard up against the drums so the wheels are completely locked.
3. Go underneath the car and pull all the slack out of the mechanical rods and cables until they are taut, then connect and split-pin your linkages.
4. Back off the square wheel adjusters exactly two clicks , or until the wheels spin completely freely.
This ensures that the linkage is perfectly tensioned relative to the exact position of the shoes, giving you a sharp, highly effective handbrake that snaps fully off when released.
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I then asked the second question!
I suggest going through each suggestion bit by bit, and using your own personal knowledge of the vehicle, decide which bits might need primary attention?
I haven't any intention of teaching you 'how to suck eggs!'
I simply wanted to provide a step by step response, from which you might be able to pick the bones out of??? _________________ Dellow Mk2, 1951 built, reg 1952.
Fiat 126 BIS
Cannon special [1996 registered. Built in 1950's]
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alastairq
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Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2026 10:24 am Post subject: |
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Sorry about all the glitches.
This forum format is , for me, on a PCpc, clunkier than my daily's front suspension. _________________ Dellow Mk2, 1951 built, reg 1952.
Fiat 126 BIS
Cannon special [1996 registered. Built in 1950's]
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ukdave2002
Joined: 23 Nov 2007 Posts: 4437 Location: South Cheshire
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Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2026 11:04 am Post subject: |
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Is wedge is already sitting too far into the expander at rest?
If previous adjustment has effectively pulled it halfway through its travel just to eliminate slack, you can end up with very little useful movement or force remaining. |
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Ray White

Joined: 02 Dec 2014 Posts: 7758 Location: Derby
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Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2026 11:20 am Post subject: |
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I suppose it all depends on how much of your time you feel can be given over to grovelling about on the floor under a car?.
If you have access to a four post lift in a garage then this is not too bad a job. If, on the other hand you only have small ramps and axle stands then ask yourself if this is really what you want to be doing with your life.
For a young person the job is quite a bit less stressful than for an old codger. If it were me, I would try finding someone else who can do the job for a reasonable sum and leave it to them.
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alastairq
Joined: 14 Oct 2016 Posts: 2278 Location: East Yorkshire
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Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2026 2:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | I would try finding someone else who can do the job for a reasonable sum and leave it to them.
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I'm not keen on suffering from someone else's cockups.... _________________ Dellow Mk2, 1951 built, reg 1952.
Fiat 126 BIS
Cannon special [1996 registered. Built in 1950's]
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Ray White

Joined: 02 Dec 2014 Posts: 7758 Location: Derby
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Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2026 4:38 pm Post subject: |
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| alastairq wrote: | | Quote: | I would try finding someone else who can do the job for a reasonable sum and leave it to them.
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I'm not keen on suffering from someone else's cockups.... |
You are right of course. My neighbour (who is very ill) put his MGC into a so called 'specialist' garage and they charged him thousands of pounds and the car is still not running right.
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alastairq
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Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2026 5:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | I don't know what the answer is. Sad |
Maybe.....look into [posh, for research?] the relevant bits thoroughly..tinternet helps....??
Specific tasks only need specific know-how.
No need to be knowledgeable about the ins & outs of a cat's backside here.
If a car isn't 'running right,' is it engine related? Or steering related?
Or what?
Then perhaps look into what stuff makes such an engine 'run right?'
If it is the engine, then there's no need for a degree in braking engineering!
It's how one eats an elephant!
Research, research, research...about what one has got sat outside...Not what the next door neighbour has got.
Heck, a BMC C series engine cannot be too hard to get 'running right?'
Or, is the issue really that the car doesn't have better performance than a Sprite?
Or one of those new fangled electric blobs made by Ding-Dong? _________________ Dellow Mk2, 1951 built, reg 1952.
Fiat 126 BIS
Cannon special [1996 registered. Built in 1950's]
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Ray White

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Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2026 6:50 pm Post subject: |
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| I have not heard the engine run but apparently it is misfiring. Unfortunately, my friend is probably his own worst enemy as he is reluctant to accept well meaning help. |
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