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Ray White

Joined: 02 Dec 2014 Posts: 7756 Location: Derby
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Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2026 6:03 pm Post subject: Early Black & Decker must be saved. |
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Everyone has a favourite garage tool and this is mine. It is very old and belonged to my late father in Law who was an auto electrician by trade. The drill therefore also has a sentimental attachment. It was probably well used before I got it. What I like about it is its compact size which allows access to small/ tight areas such as under the dash. I would really miss it if I had to bin it.
Unfortunately, today it has packed up. In fact it tripped the consumer unit in the house! When I investigated, I found the wires had perished and fused together.
I replaced the cable with a round twin and earth of the right size and reattached it to the connectors ensuring that there was a good earth. I even replaced the rubber grommet....but...
Unfortunately, there must be something else wrong as it still doesn't work.!
I am getting power to the switch (brown wire live). If I depress the trigger, should there also be power at the blue wire connection?
Please could someone could guide me through a repair procedure in a step by step way?.
I really want this drill to live again.!
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ukdave2002
Joined: 23 Nov 2007 Posts: 4436 Location: South Cheshire
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Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2026 6:34 am Post subject: |
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You should get 230/ 240v (depends of the age of supply transformers in your local area) across the brown and blue incoming wires.
If that is ok then the cable and plug fuse are ok. Id then be tempted to bypass the switch, by supplying the 2 older brown wires directly, if it works then the fault is with the switch, if not we need to delve into the motor, I'd look at the brushes first.
However given that you found and rectified the original fault, it would be odd that a second fault has developed? I'd be looking around the trigger switch as this is the only part of the drill that has been disturbed during the repair.
A search on Youtube will probably find someone who has restored one.
Your post had me reflecting on power tools, I rarely use anything but battery power tools these days, I have a very compact DeWalt 10.8v drill that's great for tight spaces and a 18v angle drill that's good for under dash work |
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MikeEdwards
Joined: 25 May 2011 Posts: 2873 Location: South Cheshire
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Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2026 8:24 am Post subject: |
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| ukdave2002 wrote: | | Your post had me reflecting on power tools, I rarely use anything but battery power tools these days, I have a very compact DeWalt 10.8v drill that's great for tight spaces and a 18v angle drill that's good for under dash work |
I'm still mainly on mains-powered stuff - I've got quite a few angle grinders to save me changing between discs all that often, and I wouldn't fancy the cost of replacing them all.
I did buy a couple of battery tools recently that have sped up a couple of jobs I've had to do on the daily driver for the MOT. First was a second-hand Clarke battery impact gun, though as it doesn't have a torque adjustment I only use it to run wheel bolts in and out, not for the final tighten. The second was a Parkside battery ratchet from Lidl. This is a base model, came with a charger and battery rather than the more upmarket ones where you have to buy them separately, but for my use it's fine as long as I remember to charge it up the day before I use it. I think if I was doing a big job I'd probably want to try to get a spare battery for it. At home I think the main reason I'd be better with a battery hedge trimmer is down to the number of times I have to stop to move the mains cable before I cut through it. _________________ 1976 Vauxhall HP Firenza, 1976 Vauxhall Sportshatch (x2), 1986 Audi coupe quattro, 2000 Audi TT |
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Ray White

Joined: 02 Dec 2014 Posts: 7756 Location: Derby
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Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2026 10:21 am Post subject: |
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| ukdave2002 wrote: | You should get 230/ 240v (depends of the age of supply transformers in your local area) across the brown and blue incoming wires.
If that is ok then the cable and plug fuse are ok. Id then be tempted to bypass the switch, by supplying the 2 older brown wires directly, if it works then the fault is with the switch, if not we need to delve into the motor, I'd look at the brushes first.
However given that you found and rectified the original fault, it would be odd that a second fault has developed? I'd be looking around the trigger switch as this is the only part of the drill that has been disturbed during the repair.
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I took the cable from a disused wood chipper. It has a moulded plug with cartridge type fuse so I can only hope it is O.K.
The connected brown wire shows mains live but the blue connected wire shows nothing regardless of the trigger position so I presume the fault lies with the trigger switch itself? If this is the case I will try and bypass it as you suggest.
I believe the transformers (up on poles) in this area are ancient. Would this be why I don't get power from the blue wire?? |
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consul 57
Joined: 09 Nov 2017 Posts: 636 Location: somerset
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Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2026 12:30 pm Post subject: |
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my father had exactly the same drill with lots of attachments you could get, circ saw amongst them.
i think it was binned when he died. |
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ukdave2002
Joined: 23 Nov 2007 Posts: 4436 Location: South Cheshire
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Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2026 12:45 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Ray
If you have old transformers on the poles you will be on 240V.
I'm a bit confused when you say you are not getting power from the "Blue wire" It's the neutral and in most incoming domestic supplies its connected to the Earth, if you measure the voltage across the live (brown) & neutral (blue) you should get 240v, if you were getting 240V between the neutral and earth, then I would be concerned !
If you do a continuity test between the 2 older brown wires you should see fairly low resistance, the type of motor fitted to drills have the field and armature wired in series, so a simple continuity test will establish that neither the field or armature are o/c, perform the same test at the end of the plug, when the trigger is pulled you should see the same resistance, if you don't its either the lead/fuse or trigger switch at fault. |
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Ray White

Joined: 02 Dec 2014 Posts: 7756 Location: Derby
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Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2026 3:36 pm Post subject: |
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| ukdave2002 wrote: | Hi Ray
If you have old transformers on the poles you will be on 240V.
I'm a bit confused when you say you are not getting power from the "Blue wire" It's the neutral and in most incoming domestic supplies its connected to the Earth, if you measure the voltage across the live (brown) & neutral (blue) you should get 240v, if you were getting 240V between the neutral and earth, then I would be concerned !
If you do a continuity test between the 2 older brown wires you should see fairly low resistance, the type of motor fitted to drills have the field and armature wired in series, so a simple continuity test will establish that neither the field or armature are o/c, perform the same test at the end of the plug, when the trigger is pulled you should see the same resistance, if you don't its either the lead/fuse or trigger switch at fault. |
All I did was connect up the wires was they were before and tested with my electric screwdriver. Brown lit up and blue didn't. I suppose this is right. I didn't know if it should have stayed the same when the trigger was pulled. IT did...
I can try by passing the switch as you suggest.
In my defence all I can say is that a little knowledge is a dangerous thing...and I have very little knowledge.  |
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Keith D
Joined: 16 Oct 2008 Posts: 1204 Location: Upper Swan, Western Australia
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Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2026 8:00 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | In my defence all I can say is that a little knowledge is a dangerous thing...and I have very little knowledge.
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Exactly, Ray. It is a very dangerous thing to play with 240v if you have no idea what you're doing. 240v is very capable of killing you. Failing that it can knock your heart out of rythem.
Keith _________________ 1926 Chrysler 60 tourer (100 years old! - a genuine antique!)
1950 Austin A40 tourer
1999 BMW Z3
Its weird being the same age as old people.
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Ray White

Joined: 02 Dec 2014 Posts: 7756 Location: Derby
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Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2026 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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Sound advice taken seriously. Thanks.
The good news is that the motor works fine. The less good news is that the switch appears to be at fault.
I didn't know what to expect but when I opened up the switch, I was met with a disparate collection of simple but loose parts that somehow had been assembled and made to work. I can't see anything obviously wrong, although some contacts are a little discoloured.
I will continue playing with this switch and hopefully get it working. |
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