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[Rick]

This bloke has been forced to sell his collection of old Trabants, after locals moaned about them being visible from a public path, some 1,300ft away

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/derbyshire/7330722.stm

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[47p2]

This has been ongoing for a few years now. I remember watching something about it on the TV a few years back.

(sticks post-it memo on forehead) "Must not buy too many old cars"
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[Old-Nail]

Interesting that planning permission is needed to park vehicles on your own land, I wonder after what number of cars this applies?

[Rick]

all I can think of this that perhaps (and I'm only guessing) maybe he was breaking a few, and they decided he had some commercial thing going on????? like I say, just trying to work out why they took the hump about a guy and his own cars, on his own land

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[Old-Nail]

Because 'they' like to control every aspect of our lives.

In principal if it's his land and none commercial there should be no interference from the council, however, if they get a bee in their bonnet about you they will use and tailor any legislation to fit their cause.

I wouldn't be surprised if this one wasn't put down to being 'Environmentally unfriendly' or some-such tosh.

[Old-Nail]

CONSTIPATED MAN LOSES APPEAL

BBC News can report that just two days after the notorious 'Trabant Man' lost his appeal to use his land to house dozens of rotting cars, his constantly constipated neighbour, Mr 'Blocky' Ryng-Piece has lost his appeal to keep his lavatory door open whilst trying to evacuate. The Peak District Park Authority originally took Mr Ryng-Piece to court in 2003 after complaints had been received from tourists on the footpath just 1000 metres from Mr Ryng-Piece's house. The house is protected from view by a seven foot high stone wall apart from a expansion gap of six centimetres. It is through this gap that Mr Ryng-Piece could be imagined sitting on his toilet with a desperate, strained look on his face.

This imagined scenario was enough for the PDPA to launch an immediate investigation. It was found that it could indeed be easily imagined that Mr Ryng-Piece could be seen via the gap in the wall and that sensitive tourists may be offended. The legal battle has continued for the past 5 years and Mr Ryng-Piece was yesterday ordered to keep his lavatory door firmly shut when he was on the toilet.

A dejected Mr Ryng-Piece said after the PDPA victory that he would not be appealing, indeed, he had never been appealing, especially during straining, but that since receiving his legal team's final bill, his constipation appeared to have been instantly cured. He said he was saddened that the public purse should be so pointlessly squandered. He never could understand how he could be responsible for what tourists visualised. He said he would from now on say that his toilet door was going to be closed, but in reality nothing would change. By saying this, he maintained that overworked imaginations would conclude that the door would actually be shut.

After the interview, he shuffled away in his grubby raincoat and worn trainers and got into a battered A-reg Citroen 2CV, the rust patches covered with self-adhesive Senokot stickers. He battled for twenty minuites to get the engine going but eventually exited the car again and went to the courthouse callbox to telephone the RAC Recovery Service. It was a devastatingly sad sight, especially those Senokot stickers with the rust all bubbly under them.

When asked for comment, the PDPA spokesman said it was "a great day for common justice, where the littlest of little men is forced to back down in the face of well-fianaced large organisation demands." Further, he said, "I just love taking on these easy targets. I wish we had more of them. The multi-million Pound Gravellexion Corporation which wants to extract gravel from right on that very footpath. Naturally, it will be given permission, as it's just so tiring and expensive to try and stop them. But", he said brightly, "in twenty years' time we will be able to turn the huge scar and deep hole into a lovely tourist attraction and bird sanctuary. Whereas Mr Ryng-Piece was just a pain in everyone's..." The spokesman was stopped there by a large man with an ominous bulge under his jacket and whisked off in chauffer-driven a PDPA long-wheelbase BMW.

BBC News, Peak District.

[62rebel]

there was a long battle some years back which a Corvair collector lost, also losing about 70 (?) derelict Corvairs which he kept in what was thought to be a suitable, locked and fenced location.
once the "Council" or whoever runs your local government machine decides that you are not "in compliance" you may as well set fire to the whole thing and enjoy the heat while it lasts. NOT ONE person/entity has been able to face down the "Man" successfully in the long run. sooner or later they will figure out a way to take away from you what you work and pay for without recompense and PROBABLY send you the bill for removal.
this pertains not only to cars, but even to housing here in the States. we had a severe storm a couple of weeks back that damaged several mobile homes in a park, these were removed as they were actually quite destroyed; it was their NEIGHBORS homes that were condemned by the "Council" while they were surveying storm damage. residents were plucked out and set on the street, no arguing with the MAN.

[Old-Nail]

So that's life in the home of the free huh?

[62rebel]

it's come to this, at least IMHO. i do what i want, worried that my neighbours will sic the law on me for nuisance. i drive what i want, worried that i won't be able to reg or insure it properly. i don't go to get building permits, because it's easier to keep something you've built than to get permission to build it; the roaming code inspectors (i believe we once called them Nazis or Gestapo) have carte blanche to visit while you're away at work.
what it is, is that we have grown so complacent and soft that we no longer raise a hand when yet another civil right is whittled away. we ARE the frog in the pot of warm water; we can't see or feel the heat increasing to a boil.
which is why i practice old school "civil disobedience"; i don't actively BREAK the law, per se; i just don't follow it blindly anymore. it is up to each common man (or woman) to see what is just and what is unjust and act accordingly.

[Old-Nail]

Well said that man!

A little more common sense from people and we wouldn't have to legislate for them not to do things.