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how do I reduce the voltage for my fuel gauge?
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1stpop



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 2:05 pm    Post subject: how do I reduce the voltage for my fuel gauge? Reply with quote

I've just finished converting my Ford 103E 'pop' from 6 to 12 volts - everything has gone really well but I'm not sure how to convert the fuel gauge? I got a voltage reducer from my parts guy and he said to just put in on the main feed from the ignition switch. I've tried this and also putting it on the feed from the tank but it just sends the needle straight round to full!!!! The gauge has a live feed from the ignition and a live feed from the tank sender unit. the earth is picked up from the body of the gauge. Anyone got any ideas?
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peter scott



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 2:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think the fuel gauge takes much current. How about a cheap 6 volt voltage regulator from Maplins? Only put it in the feed to the fuel gauge though. It won't cope with the demands of other ancillaries.

If you have positive earth then use TS7906CZ
http://www.maplin.co.uk/module.aspx?ModuleNo=31737&doy=16m6
http://www.datasheetcatalog.org/datasheet2/2/04hitl4qyaqtwfaxq04ff3l53hfy.pdf

If you have negative earth then use TS7806CZ
http://www.maplin.co.uk/module.aspx?ModuleNo=46475&doy=16m6
http://www.semitek.cz/taiwan/pdf/ts7800-0312a.pdf

HTH

Peter
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ukdave2002



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 4:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

The reason your gauge has a live feed and a feed from the tank sender is to compensate for voltage fluctuations (otherwise the fuel gauge would wander as the battery charged and loads like headlamps were switched on).

If you put a regulator just on the live side , the gauge will always read double what it should, if you put it on the sender side it will try and regulate to a fixed voltage , until the voltage drops below certain level and then it will just become unstable.

So you can use one of the regulators that Peter posted but it must supply both the live feed to the gauge and the “input” to the sender, that should then work fine, and it’s a cheap solution.

Dave
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Uncle Joe
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Uk, just a thought, but on my Chrysler, the fuel gauge uses a 5v supply. This used to be done by a Flintstone-era regulator, which was unreliable to say the least. I made up an elctronic version using a 7805 chip, heat sink, and capacitor. Could a modified version of this set up not be used? It certainly was cheap and fun to do, as it improved my lack of electrical knowledge a bit. Now its roughly wartime Lucas....ie, quite a lot of blackouts!
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pigtin



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Possibly easier using a zener diode and resistor? or I may be over-simplifying not knowing details of the unit. Confused
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 5:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Remember the Zener diodes on the old 12v Triumph motorcycles? I still have nightmares! Very Happy
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pigtin



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Technology has moved on a little since then and the current drawn would be far less.
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peter scott



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 6:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In a PM I've suggested to 1stpop that he inserts the regulator between the "B" terminal on the gauge and his ignition switch, leaving the "T" terminal to connect to the tank sender just as was. My understanding is that the tank unit only connects between "T" and chassis.

Peter
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ukdave2002



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Peter

you are right, I was over complicating things in my mind!!

Dave
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peter scott



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 12:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ukdave2002 wrote:
Peter

you are right

Dave


Not altogether, 1stpop pm'ed me to say he'd tried my regulator suggestion and (appropriately) it went "pop".

Peter Sad Embarassed
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