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Old-Nail



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 9:19 pm    Post subject: Asylum seekers Reply with quote

No...not what you think, this time it's British citizens seeking asylum from Britains politically correct government!

http://northwestnationalists.blogspot.com/

And another chap that has researched the Magna Carta to conclude that in law our government has acted illegally.
This is interesting in as much as the Magna Carta was constructed to defend free peoples against tyranny, by invoking it's measures the man has actually a legal right and thus a case against current legislation.

http://www.tpuc.org/node/240
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would really love to think such people had a chance against the system but there is a corrupt safety net to protect those in power, whatever they do. There is not, and never has been a level playing field as far as such things are concerned.
Any person of power that breaks ranks will be quickly reeled in.
A free press would be nice, but such things don't exist in the real world, even a civil war would be controlled from beyond these shores.

It's too late, better make the most of it and keep your head below the parapet. I'm not really a defeatist, just old and tired. Confused
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm voting with my feet pigtin, I'll leave Britain to implode behind me.
In 1930's Europe those with any political awareness set sail for the USA, they are the ones who prospered, we know the rest.

Someone asked me if I would be homesick, and after some consideration I realised that I already am... when I watched those old youtube clips of Britain in the 50's and 60's posted on here somewhere...I'm 'homesick' for that Britain, the one I used to live in. Well it's gone now and it isn't coming back, so neither would I be.

Did you notice the guy in the second link had had his taxes refunded? In those links to previous posts somewhere on the right he tells how he used the Magna Carta to refuse to fund a 'treasonous' government, the tax office has conceded defeat on that one!
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 3:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

we're losing the battle over here too, Nail! problem is, we have no place left to emigrate to that isn't already overrun with despicable governments and corrupt scheming speculators. we lost OUR fight for fair government when so-called "Reconstruction" was forcibly imposed upon us, and every election since!
at least we can still REMEMBER the past we have such fondness for, if nothing else.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 8:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have friends who escaped Britain to Tasmania 4 years ago so they could actually enjoy and afford their retirement. They now report that even there they are starting to experience some of the woes of the UK.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 8:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You know what they say - it is better to have loved & lost than never to have loved at all.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 9:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

...and heres me, seriously considering returning to the UK...
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 9:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There may be a glimmer of hope. Mr average: as long as he has a roof over his head, three square meals, can drive his Ford Focus to the supermarket or golf club. He, would rarely give a damn who's running the country, or world.
Now! some of these basic essentials look in danger and I wonder if he'll get up off his arse and take an interest in what's happening... so much rope, so many lamp posts but so little help.
It will probably have to get a lot worse, unfortunately, before the (remote chance) of it getting better.
Sign of the times... in the last few days I've seen a couple of dozen "gas guzzlers" scattered around the streets and front drives with 'For Sale' notices on them, including a very tasty XJS. What IS to become of them? Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 9:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You know what they say - it is better to have loved & lost than never to have loved at all.

Which is quite possibly one of the things that is creating the decline. Youngsters, or those under say 30, have never really known those times where teachers actually taught something and Policemen were respected.

It's funny how as a young man I was inclined to Socialism as I saw many perceived injustices in our society, and as an older and hopefully wiser man, I see Socialism as unworkable due to the element in human nature that will inevitably take advantage of it's tenets.

Political correctness was born out of a desire to bring about a fairer society, but was taken up by zealots and used for their own end to become a destructive force.
Given the current trend by the media and political parties to adopt 'youthful' leaders in an attempt to win the confidence of the voters I believe things can only get worse, life experience changes opinions, none of the British politicians have the gravitas of those that have gone before.

Now with 'globalisation' and computerisation we are heading toward a bland homogenised world, or a complete shift in the global hegemony, none of which are good for the west...were are simply passengers in a vessel captained by fools. Evil or Very Mad

(old nail has woken up grumpy this morning Laughing )
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 10:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm beginning to think this corner of the forum is turning into little more than a convenient political soapbox, given some of the recent posts on here, not what I intended it for.

I think it may be time to retire the Off Topic category, in the hope that forum conversation can focus on old motors, and leave the anti-Britain whinging and political stuff for the letters pages of the Daily Mail, rather than this, a vintage vehicle forum.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 10:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

*reaches for dictionary to translate nails post*

mm - I must wake up grumpy every morning as I always feel that way.

It really annoys me that the standard of education is falling, mainly because of the standard of teaching. I have a step daughter who is a junior school teacher. She can't spell and yet teaches english, she is in charge of maths education for the whole school, yet without the aid of a calculator she can't do simple arithmetic. The kids she is teaching will go on to spread their reduced level of education when they become the next generation of teachers and so the ever decreasing spiral continues. Moral values and respect for others are a thing of the past.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 10:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry Rick, I say every time I won't do it again, but I get carried away. Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

peppiB, Strange thing about the standard of English: I always thought I sent passable letters and reports in the days when I was gainfully employed. I didn't... My secretary did. Sudden realization came a couple of years ago when I submitted a very important technical assessment as an expert witness.

Having typed and laid it out without the help of a secretary, the lawyer in charge had to spend over a month editing it with me over a computer link.

I have been a member of a writing group for a while; in an attempt to tidy up my act, and find it amazing how bad some “successful writers” first drafts are and wonder how much worse they’d be without the computer spell check.
I’ve heard that good English now tends to be regarded as a ‘social’ rather than an essential technical skill.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rick wrote:
I think it may be time to retire the Off Topic category



Rick, it may be a good idea to just make it a rule that no threads on Politics or Religion be allowed.

Unless the political threads pertain to the motorist, ofcourse.

And the fact that you may clean your car religiously is neither here nor there. Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 12:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rick wrote:
I'm beginning to think this corner of the forum is turning into little more than a convenient political soapbox, given some of the recent posts on here, not what I intended it for.

I think it may be time to retire the Off Topic category, in the hope that forum conversation can focus on old motors, and leave the anti-Britain whinging and political stuff for the letters pages of the Daily Mail, rather than this, a vintage vehicle forum.

Confused


Yes let's do a Pastor Niemoller all put our heads in the sand - but don't start whinging when they take away your right to own and run those vintage vehicles, it'll be your own fault.
Where are the factories that made those vintage cars? Where are the steelworks that made the steel? Politics affects us all like it or not.
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