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Greeney in France



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 8:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the jiggle pin is the little loose pin in the thermostat that allows air and a little water during the warming up process, usually has a little seating bobble on it. I was told by "experts" that if the thermostat doesn't have one to drill a little hole in the lip to help with venting
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 10:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keith D wrote:
Jim,

Would the "jiggle pin" be the pin on the carby float bowl you jiggle to fill the float chamber up for cold starting on vintage cars!!!!!.

Keith D


People do tend to jiggle it up and down too. Silly really because they only need to hold it down until the bowl fills up.

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Jim Walker



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 12:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry Peter - No. I can assure you that I picked up the name from a Manufacturers Diagram of the part to which it is fitted. So it must be genuine.
Incidentally, 'jiggling' the primer on (mostly motorbike) carbs really is a silly thing to do, as you say. I have come across many floats battered almost beyond recognition and even punctured by the practice. Much better to press the pin gently to feel the float position.

Jim.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 12:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well that conundrum did not last long! While I was typing my previous reply several replies were listed.
The answer came across "La Manche" from Greeney.

Bravo! Jim.
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Jim Walker



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 12:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

By the way Greeney, I have always thought (and still do) that the hole prevents air being trapped below the thermostat when filling or re-filling the system. because trapped air would prevent the thermostat opening. Most (all?) cooling systems have restricted by-pass to allow some water past the 'stat during warming up.

Jim
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Greeney in France



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Its funny I was only talking about it last month as a local has a Triumph Stag with heating problems...
Yes Jim you are right, it helps to stop airlocks on refilling but also relieves a little bit of the pressure in an high pressure system. Funny the things that stick in ones brain Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 12:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Greeney,
I cannot see how it relieves pressure. Pressure is the effect of temperature rise, not water pumping, and is relieved only when the vapour pressure of the system reaches the pre set value of the pressure (relief) cap. In fact, as you said, the Jiggle Pin has a ball end at the bottom, and that will be held off its seat by gravity with the engine stopped thereby allowing the air to escape on filling. When the engine is started and water starts to flow the pin will be pushed upwards and act as a one way valve preventing the passage of water. I believe the Jiggle pin is also intended to 'jiggle' while the thermostat is open to prevent the little hole clogging up.

That's a heck of a lot of typing for a tiny part!

Jim.
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Greeney in France



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it was for reducing the cooling system pressures that develop in the engine before the thermostat opens not generally, it was my haste in writing that I failed to make myself clear
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 2:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The device on float bowles used for flooding the carb has always been known to me as the tickler held down by large greasy thumb and not beaten up and down .Regards The Fly .
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 3:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The very fact that it is called a 'tickler,' probably encouraged people to jiggle it up and down. Laughing
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