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Triumph Super Seven ???
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Bengt Axel
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| From the radiator it looks like a late edwardian or early vintage french Mors to me |
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Bengt Axel
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| roverdriver wrote: | | The photo from Austin (Sep. 11th.) of Y1 5856 might be a Paterson of about 1922/23. Unfortunately I can't find another photo to confirm this, but one feature of the marque was the sharp-shouldered bonnet similar to Packard. The headlights and side lamps, and general look of the car are also somewhat reminiscent of Packard. |
It is very similar to a Paterson I agree, but I was put off this as I assumed the registration was British and there is no record of Paterson's having a British importer (though they did have a Dutch one ....) |
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Penman
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Hi
Found on a genealogy site
| Quote: | This is a 1933 Jaguar SS - 1
Photo taken pre WW2
Has anyone ever seen one of these models?
Please note. It has 2 air intake vents in front of the windscreen.
I have done a good search in Google. Found a few 1933 SS 1 models but not with the air vents as shown in this picture. They could have been added by the owner.
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Any body got any comments about these vents?
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mikeC
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| Penman wrote: | Hi
Any body got any comments about these vents? |
Vents like these were standard fitment on Swallow bodied cars, and of course Swallow pre-dated SS. Presumably they were fitted to the SS by the owner, perhaps because he had previously owned a Swallow? |
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47Jag
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I sent this to my friend Ed Nantes in OZ who is an SS expert. He reckons it's from foreign climes (no front number plate), and its wartime (blacked out headlamp) and the scoops were aftermarket add-ons to provide extra ventilation.
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pigtin
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The picture, taken early to mid 30s, shows (I am told) an early SS at the end of the row of cars. It belonged to the proprietors wife and the company were agents for the marque I cannot see any vents.
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peter scott
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Nice picture. Now where have I seen that car before?  
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Penman
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The OP of the query from the genealogy site has now posted this;
| Quote: | Thank you guys for your interest and replies.
A couple of days ago I received a message from a friend in Malta.
He knows my life has been in cars and asked me if I could help.
Read article below
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Oct 10, 2009 - Times of Malta newspaper
This photograph depicts my grandmother and her husband's car, taken in Malta probably in the mid/late 1930s. My grandmother's name was Carmel Cassar (née Cachia) and her husband's name (my grandfather) was Carmello Cassar. They lived in Sliema, then St Julians, migrating to Australia in 1955.
The car has been identified as an SS I (1933 model) and is unlikely to have survived thus far, however some two per cent of such vehicles still exist... so there is some chance!
My investigations show that a single SSII (1935) was imported by Mizzi Bros but I am sure that this is not the car in the photograph, knowing that the car pictured is an SS I. The car depicted does have the rare air-vents at the base of the windshield.
The SS Factory (England) did mix and match model features, hence the confusion. If I could determine the engine-number, I could track the car to the factory.
It would be appreciated if any readers could assist in building an ownership history of this fine car. The assistance of the Touring Club of Malta (member of FIA) has been highly appreciated, with president Phil Agius trying on my behalf to investigate the registration history (registration "6102") and locating the site where the photographs were taken. Dr Agius is enthusiastic about the contribution to the Maltese motoring heritage and of sourcing similar photographs of Maltese motoring heritage from around the world.
Any information would be appreciated. Information could be forwarded to the Touring Club of Malta (Phil Agius) at info@touringclubmalta.org or fax 2123 8226 or PO Box 16, Msida, or directly to me at james@inkjet.com.au
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BTW. I have appied for membership in the OldClassicCars Forum
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So well done Ed Nantes.
and nice to see that we have attracted another member to OCC.
Who was the other member who had already suggested us as a possible source of info.?
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Peter_L
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| Penman wrote: | Hi
The OP of the query from the genealogy site has now posted this;
| Quote: | Thank you guys for your interest and replies.
A couple of days ago I received a message from a friend in Malta.
He knows my life has been in cars and asked me if I could help.
Read article below
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Oct 10, 2009 - Times of Malta newspaper
This photograph depicts my grandmother and her husband's car, taken in Malta probably in the mid/late 1930s. My grandmother's name was Carmel Cassar (née Cachia) and her husband's name (my grandfather) was Carmello Cassar. They lived in Sliema, then St Julians, migrating to Australia in 1955.
The car has been identified as an SS I (1933 model) and is unlikely to have survived thus far, however some two per cent of such vehicles still exist... so there is some chance!
My investigations show that a single SSII (1935) was imported by Mizzi Bros but I am sure that this is not the car in the photograph, knowing that the car pictured is an SS I. The car depicted does have the rare air-vents at the base of the windshield.
The SS Factory (England) did mix and match model features, hence the confusion. If I could determine the engine-number, I could track the car to the factory.
It would be appreciated if any readers could assist in building an ownership history of this fine car. The assistance of the Touring Club of Malta (member of FIA) has been highly appreciated, with president Phil Agius trying on my behalf to investigate the registration history (registration "6102") and locating the site where the photographs were taken. Dr Agius is enthusiastic about the contribution to the Maltese motoring heritage and of sourcing similar photographs of Maltese motoring heritage from around the world.
Any information would be appreciated. Information could be forwarded to the Touring Club of Malta (Phil Agius) at info@touringclubmalta.org or fax 2123 8226 or PO Box 16, Msida, or directly to me at james@inkjet.com.au
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BTW. I have appied for membership in the OldClassicCars Forum
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So well done Ed Nantes.
and nice to see that we have attracted another member to OCC.
Who was the other member who had already suggested us as a possible source of info.? |
My thanks to Stephen Evans in Malta, who has identified the location of the photo
I quote his reply.
The photograph is definatly taken at the beach end of St Paul's Bay here in Malta. The site where the car and the lady are, is now covered by the main road leading to the right into the what was then the village. The buildings are still there. The road today turns right at the end and will take you to what is now the St Paul's Bay bypass. Times have changed!
Thanks Stephen.
Returning to the air intakes. The Swallow Company appears to have fitted these to several of their vehicles in the early 1930's.
Above: 1931 Austin 7 Swallow.
Below: 1931 Wolseley Swallow
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Terry McGrath
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Back in 2004 we put out a 456 page book on the histories of all the SS cars in Asia Australia and New Zealand. The book contains 1200 photos. The car at the end of the queue is almost certainly not a 1931/32 SS1 Helmet guard coupe. The lourves on the bonnet are to high for the SS1.
I believe that Standard built a very similiar 16 hp car. A large size computer scan would probably confirm this beyond a shadow of a doubt.
If you can email me a larger file it would be great
terry
tmcgrath@bigpond.com
for further details of the book please visit www.paulskilleterbooks.co.uk
| pigtin wrote: | The picture, taken early to mid 30s, shows (I am told) an early SS at the end of the row of cars. It belonged to the proprietors wife and the company were agents for the marque I cannot see any vents.
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Terry McGrath
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This is an absolutely suberb photo particularly from a country where I guess there might have never been more than 1/2 dozen SS's
Back in 2004 we put out a 456 page book on the histories of all the SS cars in Asia Australia and New Zealand. The book contains 1200 photos.
It is possible to distinguish between the early 1933 SS1 and the later 1933 SS1 by extremely minor variations and I believe the is an early 1933 car
A large size computer scan would probably confirm this beyond a shadow of a doubt.
If you can email me a larger file it would be great
terry
tmcgrath@bigpond.com
for further details of the book please visit www.paulskilleterbooks.co.uk
| Penman wrote: | Hi
Found on a genealogy site
| Quote: | This is a 1933 Jaguar SS - 1
Photo taken pre WW2
Has anyone ever seen one of these models?
Please note. It has 2 air intake vents in front of the windscreen.
I have done a good search in Google. Found a few 1933 SS 1 models but not with the air vents as shown in this picture. They could have been added by the owner.
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