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Brian M

Joined: 23 Nov 2007 Posts: 783 Location: Leigh-on-Sea, Essex
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Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 7:55 am Post subject: Classic cars - wear your seat belt |
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Something borrowed from another forum , I guess this shows what can happen when an older car collides with a large modern vehicle , and this Cortina was in excellent condition before the event , if it was in a lesser condition the results could have been even worse , as the occupants say - always wear your seatbelts.
"The Pageant of Power event this year at Malpas in Cheshire was a terrific venue and event.
However, I had heard that one of the exhibitors had crashed en-route to the venue
Today at the Erddig show we found out how severe it actually was.....the driver was being pushed around in a wheel chair with both legs broken, Tib and Fibs broken in both legs and one ankle full of pins. A total of 20 breaks in his all and apparently, he was lucky not to have his right leg amputated at the shin
Well, the story goes something like this......and I'm sure he won't mind me telling you, as his daughter was promoting the fact he and his passenger were both wearing their seat belts otherwise they would more than likely be dead ....
As they were driving to the event at 9.20 am, they were minding their own business at 30 mph, when a Shogun 4x4 came out of a junction on the left and then ploughed straight into their car. Apparently it was a beautiful Ford Cortina ..... "
 _________________ Brian
1970 Volvo Amazon and 1978 Safari 15-4 Caravan
Classic Safari Forum: www.classicsafaris.co.uk |
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peter scott

Joined: 18 Dec 2007 Posts: 7211 Location: Edinburgh
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Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 10:34 am Post subject: |
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I think if you are having a head-on with any modern you have a problem.
A friend of mine driving a MkII Jag was struck by an oncoming Golf on the wrong side of the road. Despite the substantial nature of the Jaguar my friend's car was very badly damaged and he could easily have died had he not received prompt medical attention. The Golf driver was completely uninjured.
Peter _________________ https://www.nostalgiatech.co.uk
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Phil - Nottingham

Joined: 01 Jan 2008 Posts: 1252 Location: Nottingham
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Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 1:20 pm Post subject: |
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Bad luck but I doubt if it was modern small car that too would have come out worse.
Whilst most classic car drivers are careful modern cars ones particularly middle aged couples do not drive carefully and pull out from junctions or slip roads in front or you as if you should give way.
Mind you very try this when we are diving our old Land-Rovers  _________________ Rover P2
Rover P4
Rover P5 & P5B
Land Rover S2 & S3
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Rick Site Admin

Joined: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 22778 Location: UK
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Richard H
Joined: 03 Apr 2009 Posts: 2150 Location: Lincolnshire, UK
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Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 9:11 pm Post subject: |
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I need to get those seatbelts fitted in the A35!!
Whenever I see pictures like these it reminds me how important it is to have them. _________________ Richard Hughes |
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buzzy bee

Joined: 23 Nov 2007 Posts: 3382 Location: South Cheshire
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Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 11:11 pm Post subject: |
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Or drive something very heavy, and very slow. |
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47p2

Joined: 24 Nov 2007 Posts: 2009 Location: Glasgow
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Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 11:39 pm Post subject: |
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There are no seatbelts in the P2. I doubt very much if there is anywhere they could safely be fitted  _________________ ROVER
One of Britain's Fine Cars |
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Phil - Nottingham

Joined: 01 Jan 2008 Posts: 1252 Location: Nottingham
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Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 12:20 am Post subject: |
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The late Stan Stokes fitted fronmt belts to his 1947 14 - the bottom mounts went through the wood fllor into the chassis - very secure but the C/D post even with strengthening plates he fitted seemed the (very) week link to me.
I have not bothered with belts in my 16 or the S2 LR but all the resat have them.
The big P2's have very dangerously mounted steering column right at the front end to spear you in chest of course particularly if you hav ethe sprung plastic steering wheel fitted  _________________ Rover P2
Rover P4
Rover P5 & P5B
Land Rover S2 & S3
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Brian M

Joined: 23 Nov 2007 Posts: 783 Location: Leigh-on-Sea, Essex
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Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 8:42 am Post subject: |
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Phil - Nottingham wrote: |
The big P2's have very dangerously mounted steering column right at the front end to spear you in chest of course particularly if you hav ethe sprung plastic steering wheel fitted  |
Reminds me of a friend who was in a head on crash in his Ford Consul Classic in the 60's.
He threw himself sideways onto the passenger seat, and his thigh was bruised by the steering wheel. The column ended up 4 inches from the back of the drivers seat, and would have certainly killed him if he had been held in by a seat belt.
He kept photos of the wreckage and when wearing seat belts became compulsory he got an exemption from wearing them on psychological medical grounds, saying he could not drive the car when strapped in!
I wonder if he could get away with that today. _________________ Brian
1970 Volvo Amazon and 1978 Safari 15-4 Caravan
Classic Safari Forum: www.classicsafaris.co.uk |
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Rich5ltr

Joined: 28 Mar 2008 Posts: 681 Location: Hampshire, UK
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Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 10:58 am Post subject: |
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I responded to this on the Pistonheads thread but just to add that I had setbelts fitted to my 1958 Aston by QuickfitSBS in Stanmore, Middx. They did an excellent job (as commented on by my Aston specialist) and are very classic savvy. They will be at the NEC Classic Car Show next month.
http://quickfitsbs.com/gallery.asp |
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gillberry

Joined: 27 Nov 2007 Posts: 702 Location: Norwich
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Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 7:06 pm Post subject: |
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We have used QuikfitSBS over the years for some of our classics and they are very good and will try and match the belts to your car . |
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MartinC

Joined: 27 Jun 2009 Posts: 97
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Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 9:06 pm Post subject: |
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Haven't any fitted to my old cars and wouldn't spoil them by doing so.
This sounds like another Practical Classics 'fit hazard warning lights to your classic or die' type threads. _________________ 1937 Standard Flying Twelve
1942 Bedford OYD
1947 Cadillac Fleetwood Sixty-Special
1954 Hillman Minx
1956 Austin A30
1957 Vauxhall Victor Super
1960 Car Cruiser Carousel caravan
1962 Car Cruiser Carissima caravan |
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Giggles
Joined: 25 Nov 2007 Posts: 302 Location: Tucked up under a patchwork quilt somwhere in Suffolk
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Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 9:07 am Post subject: |
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When we bought our Super Snipe back in 2004 we put belts in the back to prevent a certain young lady trying to run around the back seat and parcel shelf. Loads of people moaned and moaned about us spoiling our car doing so, but with as she was then 14 months old we NEEDED them and under currant law childern under must be in a car seat otherwise they can't travel in that car.
Front belts are on the long list of to-do items. _________________ 1953 Humber Hawk
1955 Ford Fairlane
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Peter_L
Joined: 10 Apr 2008 Posts: 2680 Location: New Brunswick. Canada.
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Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 4:02 pm Post subject: |
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A bit difficult to take your pristine car to shows when your dead.
I don't believe we need more legislation but seat belts fitted to any classic should no way be described as detracting. |
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clascar

Joined: 27 Oct 2008 Posts: 83 Location: mid cheshire
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Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 10:48 pm Post subject: |
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If the 4x4 had hit them further back, ie passenger door, seatbelts wouldn't have saved them. They are very lucky and it's a testament to the condition of the car that it didn't end up a pile of rust on the road.
I am an advocate of seat belts, but they won't give protection like a modern with side impact bars, and airbags. I am afraid sometimes we have to cross our fingers, knowing that on occasions other drivers will do something unexpected and sometimes idiotic. _________________ When I exhibit a car I get the Shudders. People queue up to tell me.
You should have done that, you should have done this. Ray |
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