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clan chieftain

Joined: 05 Apr 2008 Posts: 2041 Location: Motherwell
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Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 7:09 pm Post subject: Speed Limits. |
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I know that there is talk on reducing it down to 50 on the motorway but its time it went up to 80. Its more a realistic speed for the modern car.There should also be a minimum speed for cars also of 50. If your car is not capable of doing 50 it shouldnt be on the motorway.Nothing worse than sitting behind someone crawling on the motorway.
Mind you I still think that 30 is the right speed for built up areas as the tv advert shows ( stopping distances etc )
As far as I am aware the 20 mainly near schools etc is only an advisory. I dont think its a legal limit. Schools etc are shut for holidays so it wont be needed. Maybe someone could correct me on the 20 but I dont think it is a legal limit. _________________ The Clan Chieftain |
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P3steve
Joined: 24 Nov 2007 Posts: 542 Location: Great Yarmouth, Norfolk
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Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 7:37 pm Post subject: |
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The twenty limit comes in three different types. The twenty zone is a pedestrian safety zone and will have a sign at the start saying 20 zone with the 20 in a round sign with a red surround and often a brick paved area at the start and finish, while the zone is in force you will have speed humps at regular intervals, at the end you will have a sign saying zone ends and the sign will give the new speed usually 30mph.
The twenty limit is like a 40 or 50mph area and will have a round sign with a red surround with 20 in it and this will be repeated every 10 to 12 seconds while the limit is in force, these repeated signs are about half the size of the normal sign at the start of the limit. Both these two are legally binding speeds.
The third type of twenty is the school safety zone and the sign will say 20s plenty often with a picture of a snail or tortoise on it, this twenty is only a suggested speed and the legal speed remains what it was before usually 30mph, the 20 is not in a round sign with a red edge but a retangle box so is only an advisory, at the end of this safety zone a sign will say school safety zone ends but there will be no new speed limit on the sign as the speed was always 30mph
Sorry to go on but hope that helps. _________________ If the world didn't suck we'd all fall off |
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Richard H
Joined: 03 Apr 2009 Posts: 2154 Location: Lincolnshire, UK
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Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 7:53 pm Post subject: Re: Speed Limits. |
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| marina estate wrote: | There should also be a minimum speed for cars also of 50. If your car is not capable of doing 50 it shouldnt be on the motorway.Nothing worse than sitting behind someone crawling on the motorway.
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I don't agree with this. What if you drive an old car that isn't capable of maintaining 50mph for any length of time (mechanical problems or just design?). You don't sit behind, you overtake slower vehicles, that's what the other two lanes are for.
I do agree that slow vehicles should in most cases stick to the left hand lane. Nothing worse than having someone hogging the middle lane at 50. |
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Roger-hatchy

Joined: 07 Dec 2007 Posts: 2135 Location: Tiptree, Essex
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Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 10:12 pm Post subject: |
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Alway amuses me how people think that slower vehicles should not be allowed to use the section of road they are using.
On a two or three lane carriage way, motor way or other, there is no such thing as a slow lane a medium lane or a fast lane, it is the same as any other road but with overtaking lanes.
In this country you drive on the left, single or multi lane, IE if your not overtaking something you drive on the left.
We all see MORON's on the road all day long, Middle Of Road Or Nothing.
And the pee brains who sit in the second overtaking lane till 90 degrees to their turn off and swerve across the traffic to take the exit road.
Used to see them all the time, If your in front your travelling too slow, If your behind your travelling too fast.
OK rant over
we all know speed limits are for every other vehicle not mine.
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The person recommending a blanket 50MPH is obviously not old enough or not not held a licence long enough to remember the blanket 50 mph imposed a few years ago during the fuel crisis
Nose to tail traffic, sometimes little more that a cars width, let alone length, between the vehicles, all travelling at 50 mph on the motorways.
One sollid mass of metal waiting for an accident, yes bring it on lets help the undertakers to keep in business. |
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Roger-hatchy

Joined: 07 Dec 2007 Posts: 2135 Location: Tiptree, Essex
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Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 10:21 pm Post subject: |
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How about the other argument, do away with the speed limit then we can all get to work quicker so there would be less vehicle on the road.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA |
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clan chieftain

Joined: 05 Apr 2008 Posts: 2041 Location: Motherwell
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Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 11:30 pm Post subject: |
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Great explanation standardsteve on the 20 zone.
Sorry to offend drivers of older cars as they are not on the motorways that often. My wording was wrong......should have put if you are not capable of driving at more than 50 then you shouldnt be on the motorway. Not the car.  _________________ The Clan Chieftain |
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peter scott

Joined: 18 Dec 2007 Posts: 7219 Location: Edinburgh
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Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 10:15 am Post subject: |
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There is also a green issue in motorway speed limits.
Drag increases by the square of the speed so travelling at 80 mph requires twice the BHP that is required to travel at 60 mph. I suspect that the current 70 mph limit is pitched about right, especially as a large proportion of drivers in a hurry will also use their 10% inaccuracy allowance.
Peter _________________ https://www.nostalgiatech.co.uk
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buzzy bee

Joined: 23 Nov 2007 Posts: 3382 Location: South Cheshire
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Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 3:33 pm Post subject: |
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Hi
I have strong views on this, motorway speed limits of 70mph are if anything too high, going for more would be one of the worst moves they could make! I hate being on the motorway in the fast lane, overtaking someone at 70mph, then all the twits come roaring up behind flashing there lights at a silly speed, expecting it to either make me speed up, or get out of the way. Stupid.
Secondly, Accidents at 70mph, deadly, so imagine it faster!
I think the limit of about 40mph on the motorway as a minimum is fine, then an upper limit of 60 or 70mph is sensible.
Think what waggons or UK Waggons are restricted to, maybe this would be a good way forward for motorcars? I hate going fast, I just wish everyone else was a bit more patient, allowed more time for things, were a bit more laid back, everything would be much more sensible and relaxed, let alone safer.
All this coming from a lad in his mid 20's who aparently are very speedy drivers and have to have high insurance!! But lets not go there this afternoon!
There, thats my oppinion, not sure why I have given it out, as it normally gets greeted with great anger, and then is soon forgotten about, but it makes me feel better!
Cheers and have a good slow afternoon.
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Nic Jarman

Joined: 05 Oct 2008 Posts: 1031 Location: Stoke by Clare, Suffolk
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Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 4:30 pm Post subject: |
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Why would I want to drive a classic on the motorway? Give me the A roads so I can annoy people without another 2 lanes to overtake me. _________________ 1936 Morris 8 Series 1
1973 MGB roadster
1977 MG Midget 1500
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buzzy bee

Joined: 23 Nov 2007 Posts: 3382 Location: South Cheshire
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Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 6:36 pm Post subject: Re: Speed Limits. |
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| Richard H wrote: | | marina estate wrote: | There should also be a minimum speed for cars also of 50. If your car is not capable of doing 50 it shouldnt be on the motorway.Nothing worse than sitting behind someone crawling on the motorway.
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I don't agree with this. What if you drive an old car that isn't capable of maintaining 50mph for any length of time (mechanical problems or just design?). You don't sit behind, you overtake slower vehicles, that's what the other two lanes are for.
I do agree that slow vehicles should in most cases stick to the left hand lane. Nothing worse than having someone hogging the middle lane at 50. |
Well said Richard! |
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