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1961 Singer Gazelle with only 22k
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Daniel H



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 2:14 pm    Post subject: 1961 Singer Gazelle with only 22k Reply with quote

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280659422191&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

Looks like a dream garage find. Shocked Never knew they did autoboxes on these Audax shape Rootesmobiles either.
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Richard H



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 10:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I spotted that too, it's lovely isn't it!



Look at all the history!



Local car too:



Wish I had the cash Sad
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 6:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i would fancy that if i had the cash as well Sad
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 9:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

But......why do they not get those few jobs done and give it an MOT. Confused

It would surely give the purchaser a bit more confidence in the vehicle,attract a better decent end price,and show you are a genuine seller of a product. Very Happy

I have noticed people selling vehicles on Ebay describe how good their vehicles will be when someone else sorts out the problems and puts in a lot of time,money and effort,but they still want top dollar for what they are selling.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In my eyes one of the prettiest Rootes Saloons ever made. But is it an "automatic"?
The lever on the left of the steering column suggests gears. And the mention of "Easydrive" suggests a Ferlec Clutch full of iron filings.
Ooh Eck!!!!!!
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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But is it an "automatic"?


I presume you mean it is one of those electric operated clutches like the Standrive.

In the eyes of the DSA and DVLA it would be an automatic, ie you can't take a test in any 2 pedal car and still get a manual licence.

Incidently what 3 pedal type of car is regarded as an automatic so far as licences are concerned?
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Penman wrote:

Incidently what 3 pedal type of car is regarded as an automatic so far as licences are concerned?


Is it the Ford Model T?
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 10:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought Model T's had a preselect box and not an automatic clutch as the 1950's 3 pedal semi auto's had eg Newtondrive, Saxomat, Ferlec. These had a standard gerabox and vac servo or electric clutch which operated when gear lever was held

Not sure whether even the fluid drive pre-select Daimlers and Armstrong Siddeleys can really be regarded as autos? These did not have a clutch pedal the 3rd pedal was for the change gearpoint
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 9:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi
So far as DSA is concerned if any one took a test in a car with a preselect gearbox and a "gear change" pedal, then they would be issued with an automatic only licence.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 10:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phil, the T, like the Fords preceding it, has an epicyclic transmission. It has two forward speeds plus reverse.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 1:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That dealership in West Road is still standing, but now Toomey Peugeot. As far as I can gather, it went from Holmes & Smith (Rootes) to Curries (Peugeot-Talbot) to Toomeys (Peugeot).
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 10:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have spoken to the owners in depth about this car. Apparently they purchased it from a lady owner many years ago for their museum.They closed the museum some years ago and auctioned off the other vehicles but this was kept in a garage until now.They cannot decide on a price for the car so have decided to let it go to auction.
I would really prefer it to be in another colour,that is obviously personal so no offence to any light blue Hillman owners out there.
Any other colour and I would be tempted. Very Happy

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Richard H



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 1:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's up to £2.1k....I'm out Sad
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 1:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It was a bit like Grand National this morning. Cool

No bids but everyone under starting orders.......then one person sets off with a bid and everyone else is soon to follow.

This car has always been around the three grand mark anyday of the week.especially with the provenance it has.
I should think a dealer could buy this car,sort out the MOT and take it to a premier event like Goodwood etc and get a good price.
It would not surprise me to see this in one of the glossy magazines in a few weeks with a £4999.00 price tag.

What ever it makes it will give me an idea what my Hillman Minx should be insured for.
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Richard H



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 1:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, it will almost certainly go to a dealer, sadly.
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