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pigtin



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PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2011 8:42 pm    Post subject: Warning to restorers. Reply with quote

My son was riding his beautifully restored 15-year-old Ducati yesterday and was pulled in by a roadside check. They impounded the machine because where he had the frame powder coated the number could not be read. I don't know if this was a particularly jobsworth officer or current policy. It has proved very inconvienient and costly so watch out. Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: Fri May 06, 2011 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sounds like a jobsworth to me.can't remember the last time a copper looked for my frame number.then again,i rarely get pulled these days!
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PostPosted: Sun May 08, 2011 3:49 pm    Post subject: jobsworth indeedy Reply with quote

Mind you - They'll have a job reading the frame no on the AJS - unless they want to take the tank off.....
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pigtin



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PostPosted: Sun May 08, 2011 4:09 pm    Post subject: Re: jobsworth indeedy Reply with quote

StoneRoad wrote:
Mind you - They'll have a job reading the frame no on the AJS - unless they want to take the tank off.....


They will certainly impound it and take the tank off. My son has his bike back now with the paintwork ground off around the number. He is self employed and it cost him half a day to collect it and he had to be taken there by someone. I wonder how many lorryloads of drugs and illegal immigrants passed by while while the police were dealing with this serious offence.
Looking on the bright side though: we can sleep easy in our beds knowing the roads are not becoming infested with bikers with unreadable frame numbers. Wink
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PostPosted: Sun May 08, 2011 8:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And if your son had had his bike stolen previously, and the thieves had hidden the frame number under paint, and then sold it as a ringer, and then this stop and check had found your sons bike, and then the Police had returned it......
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PostPosted: Sun May 08, 2011 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BigJohn wrote:
And if your son had had his bike stolen previously, and the thieves had hidden the frame number under paint, and then sold it as a ringer, and then this stop and check had found your sons bike, and then the Police had returned it......


True Embarassed
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PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2011 11:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know it's a bit of a pain for your son but I'm with the old bill on this one.If they start letting all painted over or obscured frame and chassis numbers go unchecked it will be a ringers idea of heaven.
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PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2011 11:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Point taken, my comments were ill chosen. But the traffic division of the Old Bill does not exactly cover itself in glory in this part of the world. They seem incapable of stopping yobs in their unsilenced hatchbacks tearing up and down a busy seafront but set up a speed check on a uninhabited slip road where the pickings are easy.
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PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2011 8:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They still do those, about 3 yrs ago my son drove a fire engine red Subaru Turbo with huge gold wheels and a silencer system you could send a small boy up to check the valves. I told him it was a licence loser, (he drove like a @@@@), and it was. One cop recognised his name, asked if he was my son, then booked him, because that's the way I trained him. No nepotism here. The six months mountain biking probably saved his life as he isn't as talented as he thinks he is, but doesn't want to ride a bike again except for leisure. Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2011 10:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In Australia, my XY Ford was always a problem for a pink slip [MOT] It did not have an engine number stamped on it. One year, a smart old mechanic told me that if the engine had to be replaced under warranty , they just dropped a new engine in with no numbers ! The good old days !
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 7:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the subject of the BiB I still have a very bad taste in my mouth from July. Pulled over on a bright sunny morning by an unmarked car and he got out with fine pad in hand. I had committed the heinous crime of letting the MOT overrun two days. No chance to say sorry, just £60 on the spot. If the police want co-operation from Joe Public, a simple requirement to produce within seven days would have sufficed, not a heavy handed approach. Before anyone comments to the contrary, I know it was my fault, but it was an oversight and the car had had completely new tyres on the day before and been serviced a month before. It was MOT'd the same afternoon without any trouble. Where has the humanity gone in this world?
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 11:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We get reminders for Road Tax and Insurance. Why not for MOT? Many people must overlook it innocently!
Since the first MOT and original first registaration must closely coincide, why is the Road Tax licence issue not tied in with the MOT date?
Even a visible window sticker might help in many ways.
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Penman



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 12:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi
Jim.Walker wrote:

Since the first MOT and original first registaration must closely coincide, why is the Road Tax licence issue not tied in with the MOT date?

Even a visible window sticker might help in many ways.

Taking a vehicle off the road, people who want a 12mth MoT when they buy a 2nd hand car, six month tax and SORN have all had the effect of decoupling tax and MoT.

If you look at your current MoT cert you will see a removable panel at the bottom LH corner which is a windscreen sticker, they have been there for at least 4yrs I currently have my 5th one in this car
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christine lowery



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 8:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ahh the good old days
while riding a 35 empire star to the vmcc scotish national in sunney perth i was pulled over in edinburgh for doing 40 in a 30 limit (pre bypass)
and the poor policeman thought he was going to have a field day
no lights
no speedo
well after a bit of light banter he checked with someone and sent me on my way
as the above were classed as extras

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Rosco663



Joined: 17 Dec 2012
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Location: South Australia

PostPosted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 5:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmm 'Big Brother' is out there.

Since registration stickers were removed from light vehicles in South Australia on 1 July 2011, the onus now is for the driver to check if a vehicle is registered. This is of particular importance if you are driving someone else's car.

All vehicles used on South Australian roads must have valid registration. If you use an unregistered vehicle on the road you may be committing an offence and may not be covered by a compulsory third party insurance policy.

South Australia Police Evil or Very Mad do roadside registration checks using wireless equipment and number plate recognition cameras to automatically detect if a vehicle is unregistered. Fixed enforcement cameras can also detect unregistered vehicles. The software used will also flag if the registered owner has outstanding warrants for other matters Shocked

I did however see a good idea at a local crash repairer. The Motor Traders Association sell a windscreen sticker where you can write down your registration validity and display for your own use, for the princely sum of $2 Cool Similar to the stickers showing when your next service or oil change is due.

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