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[Tanel]

Hi, my father has found a really interesting chassis and we have no idea to what car it belongs. Rear axle is chromed and so are spring attachments and pieces of front axle too. It seems to have handbrake outside of car. Car it self is very small. Drum breaks seem to be really small. Cardan is coverd with chromed shaft.









The pictures arent that great but I think it should be recognizable when you have seen it before.
If anyone knows to what car those items belong feel free to share!

Looking forward for your comments!
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[Rick]

Hi, I'll ask around - interesting photos! Where are you and the car?

rgds, RJ
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[Tanel]

Im from Estonia

[Penman]

Hi
The top photo seems to show 4 leaf springs 2 at the front and 2 at the back, but there also seems to be another transverse leaf spring at the rear in the 3rd photo.
This arrangement could be diagnostic for someone to recognize
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[Tanel]

2 springs go to front axle and 3 to rear. Rear axle is fixed with two longer which are diagonally from front side and from up with the last spring that is fixed to chassis being vertcal to ground. I hope you could understand.

If you look second picture. It shows how the 3-d one should be connected.

[Tanel]

So nobody has any idea to what car those items belong to?

[Farmer John]

Hello Tanel
This has me fascinated! No time at the moment, will get back this evening with any luck!
Might have an idea by then why the semi-elliptics are inverted.

John

[Farmer John]

Hi,
The rear axle assembly, using a torque tube to provide some location, specifically to control torque reaction or windup,reminds us of Ford. The housings are different, Ford uses a tapered keyed axle to mount the hub. The torque tube seems to be telescopic, as on a Chev from early last century. The use of semi ecliptics is very interesting, they also are locating the axle, but maybe they are mounted with the shorter leaves uppermost?
The chassis looks well designed and properly constructed, so why is there a gap in the third crossmember?
The front axle definitely has a European look to it, do the front brakes fit inside those hubs?
The hubs are the most mysterious of all, but you say that there is chrome on some parts which suggests hot-rod or special, in which case anything is possible.
Thanks for putting up the photos!

John

[Tanel]

brakes do not seem to be inside the hubs. It seems like rear axel has fitting place for drum breaks and first axle does not. Is it possible to have breaks only back?

Other thing is about the hubs. Are they for wooden center wheel ? Because otherwise how is wheel connected to it? There maybe a possibility that the hubs are ruined, but we cant detect it.

[Keith D]

Tanel
I don't know what car it is, but in my experience a chassis without a taper towards the front is unusual.
Up to the early 1920's, nearly all cars had brakes at the back only!
Your last photo seems to be the centre part of a thrust bearing???

Keith

[Tanel]

Yea on the last picture there is bearing or hub or sth, It goes to front axel on picture 3 counting from bottom.

[Farmer John]

Hi Tanel,
Your hubs look just like the centre of an old mass produced wire wheel. However, you have noticed that there is no sign of anything ever having been attached. Do you think that the spoke mounting holes, or whatever was there, have been welded and smoothed?
The front hub in place has two drilled and threaded flanges, if the outer was to bolt on a wheel, was the inner for a brake? Cannot see any place to bolt a break backplate to the stub axle, or a caliper bracket if there was a plan to fit discs. The practice of fitting discs began generally in the same era as chroming suspension parts.
The front axle is a very attractive piece of engineering and the rear is pretty good too which suggests a well made European item.
I had an Estonian friend who would tell me that Estonia had engineers as good as anyone in the world, he spoke of a bearing factory and I think he worked there. So, maybe the whole thing was manufactured in your country.
There are some really good internet detectives on the forum so do not be surprised if someone posts a picture of the car or cars for which you are looking.

John

[traction39]

You could also send a few pictures to The Automobile magazine. They have a finds and discovery section asking readers for help in identification. Send here:
worthycomments@btconnect.com
Alistair

[pigtin]

I know it has steering but looking at those hubs could it have been modified to run on rails?
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