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raybattersby



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 1:58 pm    Post subject: WHAT CAR IS THIS? Where's a different question... Reply with quote

I'm a motorcycle man really and the man driving the car in this photograph is an American called Russell Coes who won the Kop Hill Motorcycle Hillclimb in 1914 on his 7HP Indian.

So that's the link taking me into cars.



Here we see Russell Coes on his wedding day (in London?), sitting in his car alongside his bride. But what is the car? Where was it taken?

Answers on a postcard to...

Thanks for any help and hints.

Ray
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I will take a stab at it being a TROJAN?

Pete.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 10:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good stab but it is most definately not a Trojan - the radiator is faintly familiar - I'll sleep on it.
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raybattersby



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 11:33 pm    Post subject: More information... Reply with quote

There's some more info available that may be helpful. The picture was taken in 1920 on Russell Coes' wedding day. The registration 'OE' was issued in Birmingham in 1919.

I've considered the Sunbeam 14-40 which is very similar but the odd tapered radiator says no. It has a circular radiator badge too and what looks like a nickel-plated bonnet. The rear end shape is distinctive too.

I imagine that Russell Coes would choose to drive a car on his wedding day that matched his image as a sports competitor so maybe a brand with a sporting image.

Could this be a Fiat?
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 1:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Could it be a Star? They had a round badge.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nope - not a Star.
My guess would be a 10hp Calthorpe.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 9:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like a Calthorpe, and 1919, seems right. Calthorpe manufactured two wheelers too, so that might be the connection.
Photos are hard to find, and this one can't be 'lifted' for posting, but have a look at it.

http://www.hvri.org/picture.ehtml?pid=1784222682
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 10:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here we are - a 1921 Calthorpe 10hp Minor:

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 12:18 pm    Post subject: Thanks Guys Reply with quote

roverdriver, you're a genius. Well done! I have never known the answer but I know that you're correct. There are so many matching distinctive points:

1. Tapered Radiator
2. Disc wheels
3. Sweeping scuttle
4. Rounded rear-end profile
5. Hand-operated spotlights mounted each side of the screen

And as you surmise, Calthorpe provides a motorcycle connection too.

Thanks also to mikeC for his confirming photo.

Ray

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 12:33 pm    Post subject: COPYING Non-Downloadable Photos and Text Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 1:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi
Interesting comment on the wiki page about the bodies.
Quote:
The cars continued to have excellent coachwork made by the Calthorpe subsidiary company of Mulliner (acquired in 1917[2]), who had an adjacent factory.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calthorpe_cars
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