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So the MOT is going for pre-1960?
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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2012 12:04 pm    Post subject: So the MOT is going for pre-1960? Reply with quote

This suggests so, as of November....

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/motoring/motoring-news/pre1960-vehicles-to-be-exempted-from-mot-7770428.html

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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2012 1:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also on the beeb site:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18146326

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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2012 2:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice to know we are being thought of but is it the right move.

A longer time between and maybe a reduction in price, not so many things to check on most pre 60's

It only needs the, "It's free motoring" brigade who won't be bothered about maintaining the vehicle to be involved in a serious accident for the media to be on a sensationalist journalism (is there any other type) witch hunt to boost their papers sales.
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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2012 2:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd have been more comfortable if this was coming in for pre-war cars rather than pre-1960, but large lorries pre-1960 are already exempt so it brings things into a line.

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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2012 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Roger-hatchy wrote:
Nice to know we are being thought of but is it the right move.

A longer time between and maybe a reduction in price, not so many things to check on most pre 60's

It only needs the, "It's free motoring" brigade who won't be bothered about maintaining the vehicle to be involved in a serious accident for the media to be on a sensationalist journalism (is there any other type) witch hunt to boost their papers sales.


I think the free motoring brigade or low budget brigade will be buying 1990s cars not 1950s cars but time will tell I guess.
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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2012 3:49 pm    Post subject: mot Reply with quote

I can't see a sudden rush to buy a pre1960's car, just for no MOT.
It just seems a bit of good news, for the (mostly)enthusiasts who still drive them. Have faith, that said enthusiasts, will continue to maintain their old motors to the same standards.
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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2012 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

49barndoor wrote:


I think the free motoring brigade or low budget brigade will be buying 1990s cars not 1950s cars but time will tell I guess.


Indeed. The free motoring brigade will soon discover that putting miles on a pre 60's car is likely to be anything but free! Spares, specialist garages, engine rebuilds etc etc.

I think they've changed the law because VOSA were probably getting inundated with appeals from owners and enquiries from testers regarding stuff like braking systems and lighting etc. It's rare to find a tester these days with knowledge, understanding or sympathy for 'old iron' and the whole shemozzle was probably judged to be more trouble than it's worth....

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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2012 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I must admit I rather like the idea of not having to worry about an MOT test for our older vehicles, however I wonder what the insurance companies will make of it - especially if an MOT-exempt vehicle is involved in a bad accident and subsequently found to be unroadworthy? Let's face it, most of us are pretty clued-up, but there are people out there that aren't. I have grave visions of eventually being forced into obtaining an engineer's reports or suchlike just to get insurance.
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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2012 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's always been the owner's/driver's responsibility to make sure that their car is roadworthy before every trip, so I don't envisage much changing to be honest doz.

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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2012 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rick wrote:
It's always been the owner's/driver's responsibility to make sure that their car is roadworthy before every trip, so I don't envisage much changing to be honest doz.

Aye, I know that, you know that - but it doesn't necessarily mean that everyone knows that (or perhaps more to the point, that everyone can be bothered to check!). My experience of insurance companies is that they'll not accept what they may consider an increased risk without passing the cost on to us in some way, shape or form.
EDIT: That's not to say I'd not love to be proven wrong... Smile
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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2012 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doz wrote:
Rick wrote:
It's always been the owner's/driver's responsibility to make sure that their car is roadworthy before every trip, so I don't envisage much changing to be honest doz.

Aye, I know that, you know that - but it doesn't necessarily mean that everyone knows that (or perhaps more to the point, that everyone can be bothered to check!). My experience of insurance companies is that they'll not accept what they may consider an increased risk without passing the cost on to us in some way, shape or form.
EDIT: That's not to say I'd not love to be proven wrong... Smile


I think they may assess insurance by history of risk. We should have to build up a history of accidents before they increase premiums. Please tell me they're not greedy opportunists like governments. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2012 5:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just receiveda Press Release from the FBHVC announcing this. They say that there will be an option for owners to submit for a voluntary MoT check - which I presume any sensible user will do. The difficulties of proving you took all reasonable precautions to ensure the vehicle was roadworthy would be horrendous in the event of any claim.
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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2012 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes why bother then? was this a bit of non-news and we carry on as before? How much will these voluntary checks cost, are they to be carried out by approved garages? Will insurance companies insist on them? We have a whole new can of worms... Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2012 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We shall have to wait and see how the legislation pans out.
I fully intend submitting my cars for voluntary checking if only due to a 30+ year track record of having previously unknown faults thrown up by the MoT test. Even if (as usually happens) no fault is found, or maybe a slight one that would have gone unnoticed save for the specialist equipment, I feel happier for having a second opinion.
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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2012 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Uncle Alec wrote:
or maybe a slight one that would have gone unnoticed save for the specialist equipment, I feel happier for having a second opinion.


You don't really need a 'voluntary MOT test' for a second opinion, any mechanic with significant experience can surely give it a coat of gaze if that's what makes you feel happy.

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