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Later Registration Plate on Older Car
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colwyn500



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 8:53 pm    Post subject: Later Registration Plate on Older Car Reply with quote

I noticed that a thread I started on a different subject had evolved into a disussion on this. We know the rules but has anyone ever accidentally or otherwise transferred a plate making a car look newer than it actually is?
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Inglewood



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 9:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dealt with a guy with a 1963 Land Rover last week, showing a 'V' reg for 1980.

Reason, first owner was the MOD. One rule for them.......
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Roger-hatchy



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 9:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Two of mine that come to mind
A 1957 Karman Beetle on an 'F' reg
A 1953 Beetle on an 'E' reg
My friends 1954 Beetle was also an 'E' reg
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clan chieftain



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 9:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have never transferred a registration but as I said on another thread I had a 54 Hereford on a B plate....sold it.
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colwyn500



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's pretty obvious that whatever the rules, we can refute the fact that you can't have a car with a later plate...you can.
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welshrover



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 10:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Inglewood wrote:
I dealt with a guy with a 1963 Land Rover last week, showing a 'V' reg for 1980.

Reason, first owner was the MOD. One rule for them.......

theres a guy who works at the tally railway near me with a 1953 series 1 landrover with a 1969 G plate on it .
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V8 Nutter



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 10:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not supposed to happen nowadays, but at one time used American cars were always registered the year they came into the country. For example I once owned a 1954 Oldsmobile that was registered as a 1956.

The procedure now is to issue a Q plate unless the date of manufacture can be prooved.
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Roger-hatchy



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 12:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

American cars didn't have the monopoly.
Vehicles came from other countries as well.

Any imported vehicle, new or old, used to be given a registration relating to the date of registration.
Hence my Beetles, one driven back from Deutchland in 1968, and the other was imported the year before, not by me.

Military vehicles also got the same.
Military vehicles are not registered, even now, on the UK road licence system.

Imports and ex Military are not re-registered as they don't have a UK registration.

Another question, do imported older vehicles get a Q plate or a different reg these days.
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ukdave2002



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 10:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Roger-hatchy wrote:
American cars didn't have the monopoly.
Vehicles came from other countries as well.

Any imported vehicle, new or old, used to be given a registration relating to the date of registration.
Hence my Beetles, one driven back from Deutchland in 1968, and the other was imported the year before, not by me.

Military vehicles also got the same.
Military vehicles are not registered, even now, on the UK road licence system.

Imports and ex Military are not re-registered as they don't have a UK registration.

Another question, do imported older vehicles get a Q plate or a different reg these days.



I don't know when the legislation changed, but in the 70's my uncle used to spend half his working life in Switzerland, where he found new cars cheaper than the UK, so he bought UK spec cars over there, ran them for 2 or 3 years on the Swiss plates, waited until the new Aug reg letter was out and then registered them in the UK and sold them on, whilst he didn't hide the fact the cars were 3 years old, he got premium prices as the cars "looked" newer than they were.

Imported cars still get an age related plate.

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mikeC



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 11:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And of course DVLA themselves issue numbers later than the car concerned: if you re-register a post-1930 car under the "age-related" scheme, you are issued with a registration with numbers before letters, which of course did not exist before the mid-'fifties Rolling Eyes
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MikeEdwards



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 11:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As I recall it was around 1981 that the rules changed for imported vehicles getting a new registration, on an X plate. I recall seeing an Audi coupe (type 85) on an N-prefix plate advertised in the Auto Trader, the chap in the advert said he'd explain how it happened to whoever bought it, so there are/were obviously loopholes around.
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