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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 11:17 pm    Post subject: Classic Estates Reply with quote

On another topic Rick mentioned classic estates.Other than a 35 year old one that I know of how many of our forum members have classic estates.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 12:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm afraid that I don't have a classic estate myself but I know of one which is owned by a Vauxhall enthusiast in North East Wales and it must be something of a rarity now.

The car is a 1965 C registered Vauxhall Victor 101 Estate in a mid grey colour - not two tone - so it must be a Deluxe or Base model rather than anything with a higher specification. It's been some years since I saw it but it was in excellent condition. It had a red vinyl interior with, I'm almost sure, a front bench seat.

In my opinion one of the most handsome estates of the 1960's was the Mark One Triumph 2000 or the rarer Triumph Mark One 2.5PI Estates which were only produced for little more than a year.

I don't remember ever seeing one of the few Rover 2000 Estates but there was one Vauxhall Cresta Friary Estate in this area, a white one, towards the end of the 1960s.

My mother had Mini Estates for years :

EFF 392D - a 1966 non woody in Island Blue
JFF 947H - a 1969 850cc do*
JFF 957H a 1969 998cc do
UCA 817J a 1971 Mini Clubman Estate in Bedouin (beige)
NJC 50L a 1973 do Harvest Gold
TCA 997R a 1976 1098cc Mini Clubman Estate in Antique Gold
OJC 239S a 1977 do in Flamenco (red)
TJC 679T a 1978 do in Inca Yellow

* This Mini was delivered 14 days after the Wolseley 18/85 Mark 2 (JFF 900H) in mid August 1969 and my mother complained that it was no more powerful than her previous D registered one. My father took it out for a run and had to agree with her. On the rear door it said Mini Mk2 1000cc.
He took it back to the dealer (Thomas Motor Mart near Corwen, North Wales) and the service manager agreed it was no more powerful than a 850cc. It was left there for investigation and a courtesy car was given.
A few days later Mr Thomas, the dealership's owner telephoned and explained after much head scratching it was found that the car had an 850cc engine!
The service manager had found out by hitting a piece of cork below the cylinder head at the rear of the engine and the indentation 848cc was revealed.
JFF 957H, a proper 998cc was delivered two days later.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 12:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dont think that estates are all that collectable.Other than Morris Travellers you dont see many estates at classic car shows.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 1:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I presume the estates lead a much harder life,so there possible far less survivors.That said,there is a LHD Volvo 122 estate still in daily use,that i see quite often around town,
Here's a few pics of a local show some years ago:







This is not the same car i reffered to earlier,so there must be at least 2

Does the Husky count?




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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 1:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A few more




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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 5:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have one.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 8:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In some respects I should have hung on to my Standard Companion, as it was a very handy, nippy, and economical little runabout.



If I found another, or perhaps a Husky, in good overall condition at an affordable £ I'd have one again in a flash.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 10:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think estate cars are often more elegant than the equivalent saloons (there are some notable exceptions where saloon rear doors are used) and especially woodies.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 11:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My current restoration project is an estate, a 1976 Vauxhall Sportshatch. It's basically a 2.3 Magnum estate, but fitted (at the factory) with the nosecone and alloy wheels from the Droopsnoot Firenza, then painted in an eye-catching scheme intended to put a bit of colour into the showrooms. Just welding the offside rear quarter back together now.



(The one in the photo isn't the one I'm restoring, just don't have a decent photo of it to hand. The one above is now in Australia).
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've always fancied an early Range Rover.Do they qualify as an estate?.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bd, of course they do! They've got folding rear seats and carry lots of stuff.
If you really fancy one, buy now, cos prices are rising quickly, especially early two-doors, and late model LSE.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Our Gracie is used at least once a week all year round , attends shows during the summer and has just come back from being on a stand at the NEC classic car show . But as has been said the estates are rarer as usually less were made and they lead a harder life . In most cases they command a premium over saloons when they come up for sale .

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 10:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The real classic estate


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 10:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is fascinating - I don't ever remember seeing a Consul Classic Estate.

Is the vehicle photographed one of the very few that were custom built in Nairobi?

The converter was a "Hughes Ltd", I believe, but did Ford make some Classic Estates themselves?
The registration number plates look original from around 1963, so has your car always been in the UK?
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 11:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have never seen one before either. It is a smashing looking estate. Is it a 1 off ? Cool
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