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clan chieftain
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 Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 9:01 pm Post subject: What car was ahead of its time. |
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I would go for the Jowett Javelin
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Roger-hatchy
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ukdave2002
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Many Citroens were way ahead of their time, and some of the engineering never got the credit it deserved as it was a tad more pioneering than robust !
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clan chieftain
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The DS of the late 50s was amazing and we were running about in 100Es and Minors etc.
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colwyn500
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Larry, I had a memory of this information at the back of my mind. Although it pains me to inform you......
"Between 1832 and 1839 (the exact year is uncertain), Robert Anderson of Scotland invented a crude electric-powered carriage." |
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MVPeters
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Rover 2000
Won all sorts os safety/innovation awards on introduction.
Maybe ON time, rather than ahead of it.
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Jim.Walker
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| marina estate wrote: | | The DS of the late 50s was amazing and we were running about in 100Es and Minors etc. |
And saving a lot of expense. My Brother in Law was daft enough to buy one. It was TOO MUCH "before its time"!
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Penman
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pigtin
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Lancia Aprilla 1937, nothing came near.
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emmerson
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| MVPeters wrote: | Rover 2000
Won all sorts os safety/innovation awards on introduction.
Maybe ON time, rather than ahead of it. |
When designing the 2000, Rover bought and stripped a DS.
Exactly what they used from it, I'm not sure.
As for the original question, what Range Rover? |
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pigtin
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| emmerson wrote: | | MVPeters wrote: | Rover 2000
Won all sorts os safety/innovation awards on introduction.
Maybe ON time, rather than ahead of it. |
When designing the 2000, Rover bought and stripped a DS.
Exactly what they used from it, I'm not sure.
As for the original question, what Range Rover? |
I think, possibly, bolt-on panels?
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emmerson
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Maybe, pigtin, but putting the memory on rewind, I think ir was more to do with the front suspension mountings?
Btw, the last sentence of my previous post should read "...........What ABOUT the Range Rover?" |
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V8 Nutter
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The Range Rover was only a variation on something Jeep had been doing for some years. The original Cherokee.
The Citroen D.S was technically very advanced but the only one I ever drove was hard work. It didn't seem natural to change gear without a clutch they should have gone to a proper automatic, and that golf ball brake pedal was wierd.
American cars of various makes had to be the most advanced for creature comforts, radios and proper heaters 1930's, power convertible top 1938, flashing indicators 1937, automatic transmission '39,air conditioning 1940. power windows and seats 1946, power steering 1952, central locking 1958.
Not forgetting the 1907 Christie transverse engine front wheel drive, the O.H.C. Welch about the same time and the supercharged Chadwick about 1910 and the Deusenberg hydraulic brakes in the 1920's.
I could be a little bit out on some of these dates I've written this from memory |
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Roger-hatchy
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Peugeot had a lot of firsts.
1934 301 eclipse, first car to use a powered retractible hard top patented in 1931 |
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emmerson
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| V8 Nutter wrote: | The Range Rover was only a variation on something Jeep had been doing for some years. The original Cherokee.
The Citroen D.S was technically very advanced but the only one I ever drove was hard work. It didn't seem natural to change gear without a clutch they should have gone to a proper automatic, and that golf ball brake pedal was wierd.
American cars of various makes had to be the most advanced for creature comforts, radios and proper heaters 1930's, power convertible top 1938, flashing indicators 1937, automatic transmission '39,air conditioning 1940. power windows and seats 1946, power steering 1952, central locking 1958.
Not forgetting the 1907 Christie transverse engine front wheel drive, the O.H.C. Welch about the same time and the supercharged Chadwick about 1910 and the Deusenberg hydraulic brakes in the 1920's.
I could be a little bit out on some of these dates I've written this from memory |
V8 nutter, Agreed, but it was the first of its kind in the leisure market, spawning all the "SUVs" that are around today.
Regarding the DS, I've had lots of them over the years, and found them all to be the most relaxing cars I've ever driven, up to and including my present LSE Range Rover. That brake pedal only needed experience to get it right. After all, most modern ABS systems now work in similar fashion. The only reason I don't drive a DS today is simply money. I don't have enough of it! |
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