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clan chieftain

Joined: 05 Apr 2008 Posts: 2041 Location: Motherwell
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Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 12:14 pm Post subject: The worst vans. |
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British Leyland must come close with the J2 the J4 and the EA. The PB Commer was murder to work on as well. We had them all in the GPO. _________________ The Clan Chieftain |
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Salopian
Joined: 05 Jan 2010 Posts: 354 Location: Newport Shropshire
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Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 12:29 pm Post subject: |
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No experience of the EA but the J2 and J4 were truly awful in every way. The Commer however I thought even worse if that were possible. The first Transits in 1964-5 were streets ahead. The 1968 Transit I bought when I was running a couple of Guy six wheelers on brick haulage in 1970 was brilliant although the V4 was not a good engine and the then diesel not the best. _________________ Jonathan Butler
Alvis SD 12/50 1928 MG TD 1950
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Riley Blue
Joined: 18 Jun 2008 Posts: 1751 Location: Derbyshire
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Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 1:46 pm Post subject: |
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| I once borrowed a Commer and had to do an emergency stop. The back wheels must have lifted a foot off the ground! |
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Minxy
Joined: 22 Sep 2010 Posts: 273 Location: West Northants
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Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 2:46 pm Post subject: |
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Years ago I had a Commer PB with a factory fitted auto box
The auto box coupled with the PB's 'unusual' drive made it rather interesting. |
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47p2

Joined: 24 Nov 2007 Posts: 2009 Location: Glasgow
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Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 4:45 pm Post subject: |
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I was in my local Rootes dealers which was Andersons of Newton Mearns one day watching the salesman using an aerosol can to spray the front valance of a brand new Commer campervan as the paint was falling off it.
Worst vans for me to drive were Sherpas _________________ ROVER
One of Britain's Fine Cars |
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Kenham
Joined: 12 Mar 2012 Posts: 209 Location: Kent
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Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 7:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Well I must say I drove many miles in my J4 van with no problems other than a few suspension bushes now and again. You had to grease the vehicle regularly which a lot of people find hard or the king pins wore out quickly. I found it a very good van and a lot better than the V4 Transit that replaced it. I dont think I ever drove it for more than a week without it breaking down. I must say I did like the Mk1Transit but those V4 engines were about the worst thing ever made by Ford, I could have the head off and change a head gasket in a very short space of time. We planed heads ,changed heads tried different makes of gaskets but no way could you keep water in the dammed thing,two days after I sold it it caught fire on the M20, best thing it ever did! I then had one with a Perkins 4108 which would not pull a greasy man out of bed, another wonder from Ford (I wondered why I bought it). The J4 was much better in my experience although the Transit I had with the 1600 crossflow engine was a good van although it rusted away before your eyes and of course it was a few years after the J4. Saying that I would like to have all of them now, Ken |
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V8 Nutter
Joined: 27 Aug 2012 Posts: 605
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Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 8:12 pm Post subject: |
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The worst van I ever drove was a split screen Volks Wagen, just to keep it straight I had to keep moving the steering wheel like they do in old time movies.
EA's had so many mods it was almost impossible to get parts that would fit first time or without altering something else.
Many years ago a friend of mine drove a J4 across the Sahara Desert and back without any problems. Needless to say he was a total eccentric.
I found V4's could be troublesome but once you got right the 2 litre would certainly pull well |
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Bitumen Boy
Joined: 26 Jan 2012 Posts: 1763 Location: Above the snow line in old Monmouthshire
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Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 8:45 pm Post subject: |
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| No direct experience - in fact I don't think I've ever seen one - but I've come across horror stories of the Standard Atlas vans before now, does anyone remember those? |
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RUSTON
Joined: 07 Mar 2011 Posts: 144 Location: Matlock.
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Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 9:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Bitumen Boy wrote: | | No direct experience - in fact I don't think I've ever seen one - but I've come across horror stories of the Standard Atlas vans before now, does anyone remember those? |
Yes, blooming awfull things! Not good to drive, the gearlever appeared somewhere near your left shoulder, and if the transverse front spring broke it could split the engine sump.
Now I always thought that the J4 was a good van, we never had many problems with them at the dealership as basically they were a Morris Oxford series 6/Austin A60 mechanically with a different body shell so were reliable enough. The J2 wasn't quite so nice to drive though with having a beam front axle but they didn't give many problems either. The JU and EA were a little quirky but after all the modifications were done they proved decent enough. Now the early V4 Transits were bad, I reckon that any engine that requires a balancing crank has problems and they certainly did. I liked the Bedford CF as well, if you set the 2.3 engine up properly they would match most vans performance wise, was never keen on the CA series though.
I drive a LDV 400 with the Pug 2.5 engine and this has never given me any problems even when laden and towing a caravan, will pootle along at 50mph all day long until you encounter a hill!
Pete. _________________ Measure twice...cut once! |
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Penman
Joined: 23 Nov 2007 Posts: 4880 Location: Swindon, Wilts.
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Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 9:52 pm Post subject: |
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Hi
If we go a little heavier, to the old 3 ton unladen (now7.5 tonne GVW), I remember driving a threepenny bit cabbed box van, approaching some T/lights just round a bend, in the wet and unladen; the lights changed, I braked blinked and found myself facing back where I had come from and neatly parked at the side of the road.
As a contrast the Ford D series that we had at the same time were a dream to drive. _________________ Bristols should always come in pairs.
Any 2 from:-
Straight 6
V8 V10 |
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47p2

Joined: 24 Nov 2007 Posts: 2009 Location: Glasgow
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Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 11:11 pm Post subject: |
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The threepenny bit BMC 550FG that my then employer had were terrible, freezing cold in the winter, roasting hot in the summer, always breaking down and bursting injector pipes _________________ ROVER
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colwyn500
Joined: 21 Oct 2012 Posts: 1745 Location: Nairn, Scotland
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Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 7:12 am Post subject: |
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I am seeing a lot of thumbs up for Ford. I wonder did anyone ever try a Ford P100 pickup? I think mine had the 1600 petrol engine; you reallly needed a tank the size of the pickup bed if you had any size of load, but then the cab seemed to take up half the vehicle anyway.
It must have been deigned for use in the desert, I think it was made in South Africa; there seemed to be no rust-proofing at all. In fact they had used was very little paint under the vehicle.
Mine was anly 5 years old but I had to replace the petrol tank, the rear chassis cross-member and I remember removing the few good bolts that secured the pickup body, going to the scrapyard and driving home without it. The new one I made out of thick timber and steel did nothing for the fuel economy.
Probably collectable now! |
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clan chieftain

Joined: 05 Apr 2008 Posts: 2041 Location: Motherwell
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Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 9:11 pm Post subject: |
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There is a J4 van on ebay needing a clutch and a tidy up. Looks as if its a camper as it has a pop up roof but there are no photos of the inside. Not the worst. _________________ The Clan Chieftain |
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Ellis
Joined: 07 Mar 2011 Posts: 1386 Location: Betws y Coed, North Wales
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Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 7:22 pm Post subject: |
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| colwyn500 wrote: | I am seeing a lot of thumbs up for Ford. I wonder did anyone ever try a Ford P100 pickup? I think mine had the 1600 petrol engine; you reallly needed a tank the size of the pickup bed if you had any size of load.
Probably collectable now! |
Collectable?
Only for those who have masochistic tendencies.
I had the misfortune to own one in 1988 - a 1983 De-lux version with the body graphics and cloth trim. It was one of most shocking things I have ever driven or owned.
Few survived beyond their second or third MOT.
The Sierra based P100 was quite good except you saw very little through the rear window because of the high rear end. The petrol 2.0 litre was quite a road burner and the diesel not bad.
I've just had a look on Ebay and there's one 1983 P100 for sale there, a base version with only 30k miles for £5995.
I pass. _________________ Starting Handle Expert
1964 Jaguar Mark 2 3.4 litre
1962 Land Rover Series 2a 88"
2002 BMW M3 E46 Cabriolet |
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