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Ironhead
Joined: 28 Mar 2010 Posts: 458 Location: Leicestershire
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Posted: Mon May 30, 2011 9:50 am Post subject: Deltic diesel engine |
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not sure if train stories are welcome on here Rick, but i was interested in an item on the news this morning,a 1961/2 Deltic 2-stroke diesel engine,the Royal Scots Grey,has been pulled out of retirement to haul trains for GB Railfreight for the next few weeks as they are short of engines .i'm not a train spotter,but these are awesome engines! |
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peter scott

Joined: 18 Dec 2007 Posts: 7211 Location: Edinburgh
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P3steve
Joined: 24 Nov 2007 Posts: 542 Location: Great Yarmouth, Norfolk
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Posted: Mon May 30, 2011 10:49 am Post subject: |
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Brings back memories of me as a young lad in the 1970's on Newark station almost getting sucked of the platform by a Deltic as it went through on a non stopper at almost full speed, there was a white line painted on the platform about two yards back from the edge and you had to remain behind that to be safe, we used to stand dead on it and see who was brave enough to stay there as the train went through (A miss spent youth) _________________ If the world didn't suck we'd all fall off |
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Rick Site Admin

Joined: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 22780 Location: UK
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Posted: Mon May 30, 2011 11:23 am Post subject: Re: Deltic diesel engine |
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Ironhead wrote: | not sure if train stories are welcome on here Rick, but i was interested in an item on the news this morning,a 1961/2 Deltic 2-stroke diesel engine,the Royal Scots Grey,has been pulled out of retirement to haul trains for GB Railfreight for the next few weeks as they are short of engines .i'm not a train spotter,but these are awesome engines! |
Anything related to historic transport can go in this section, rail, nautical, whatever really so long as it's old
I'm not well up on matters rail-related, but those Deltics do look the business
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47Jag
Joined: 26 Jun 2008 Posts: 1480 Location: Bothwell, Scotland
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Posted: Mon May 30, 2011 2:52 pm Post subject: |
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I remember getting invited aboard a Deltic loco in Glasgow Central station to see one in action. 18 cylinders in the length of 6. The driver offer to let us ride to London for a 'tenner'.
I read an article once thatt he New York fire department had commisioned one to drve a pump on an appliance that they reckoned would punch a hole in a skyscraper and get to the fire directly. I dont know if it ever got built. A question for Scotty?? I think it put out something like 3000 HP.
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ukdave2002
Joined: 23 Nov 2007 Posts: 4232 Location: South Cheshire
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Posted: Mon May 30, 2011 9:40 pm Post subject: |
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I saw a deltic at Crewe station, they make an amazing sound!
Do they have 3 seperate cranks?
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Ironhead
Joined: 28 Mar 2010 Posts: 458 Location: Leicestershire
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Posted: Mon May 30, 2011 9:48 pm Post subject: |
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ukdave2002 wrote: | I saw a deltic at Crewe station, they make an amazing sound!
Do they have 3 seperate cranks?
Dave | i think they have dave.2x18 cylinder engines |
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Scotty
Joined: 23 Nov 2007 Posts: 883
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Posted: Mon May 30, 2011 9:48 pm Post subject: |
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I attended a fire in a Deltic at the 'Cally' yard in Springburn in the 1980's where the throttle had jammed wide open during a test and the only way they eventually could stop it was to throw a box of rags into the air intake trunking!
Needless to say the massive engine didn't take too kindly at being stopped dead and basically blew itself apart. What was particularly frightening was there was absolutely no room inside the engine compartment to access the burning areas. In the end up it was the skinniest fireman I had in the crew was sent crawling and squeezing himself along the very narrow inspection passage to put out the fires - a b*****r of a job!
47Jag wrote: | I read an article once that the New York fire department had commisioned one to drive a pump on an appliance that they reckoned would punch a hole in a skyscraper and get to the fire directly. I dont know if it ever got built. A question for Scotty?? I think it put out something like 3000 HP. Art |
You're right Art, there was a fire engine that used a Deltic engine, to be specific - a Napier-Deltic engine, 18 cylinder turbo-blown compression ignition, water cooled opposed piston type operating on a two stroke cycle and was one of a trio of trucks used by New York Fire Dept dedicated to this system -
This is the link to the story of this huge 1960's fire engine - "Super Pumper System" |
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Ironhead
Joined: 28 Mar 2010 Posts: 458 Location: Leicestershire
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Posted: Mon May 30, 2011 9:52 pm Post subject: |
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that is a class fire engine! better than our weedy ones  |
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roverdriver

Joined: 18 Oct 2008 Posts: 1210 Location: 100 miles from Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
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Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 10:46 am Post subject: |
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Three crankshafts, six pistons in each vertical plane.
Works like this-
 _________________ Dane- roverdriver but not a Viking. |
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exbmc
Joined: 18 Jun 2009 Posts: 236 Location: Derby East Midlands
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Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 8:20 pm Post subject: deltic |
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Nice animation Roverdriver. For anyone interested, the engines were rated at 1650 bhp @ 1500 rpm. So with two of them, the Deltic loco's had 3300 bhp available. They did not drive directly, but powered two huge generators, which in turn powered the six traction motors. I think Thorneycroft (?) also used the engines in motor torpedo boats. |
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Ironhead
Joined: 28 Mar 2010 Posts: 458 Location: Leicestershire
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Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 8:59 pm Post subject: |
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the deltic engine was also used in minesweepers as well apparantly |
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