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heathelect



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 12:13 am    Post subject: bsa 4 wheelers Reply with quote

Just visited my cousin, and he showed me his classic car, its a bsa, but other than that i have no other info.
Ive found pics below on net and i think this is his, the reg seems familiar.
Anyone seen this car before, or know of any history.
regards dave.



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buzzy bee



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 1:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Looks like a BSA scout to me 9 hp sports car. mid 1930's?

Made by BSA Cycles LTD rather than Birmingham Small Arms Co. LTD.

They made 1100 V-twin air cooled overhead valve engines for the Birmingham Small Arms Co. LTD.

Was it front wheel drive?

I have a little more info, if you want it, pm me your email, and I will scan you what I have tomorrow evening.

Cheers

Dave
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 2:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know nothing of that particular car, but when I lived in NZ in the late 60's, a chap who owned a BSA car of about 1935, came to me because it was 'freewheeling', and he could not pass its 'Warrant of Fitness' test.

I crawled underneath (I was very slim in those days) and saw an odd lever on the side of the gearbox. There was some fencing wire that had apparently broken, wound through the eye of the lever. I fiddled with the lever, worked out where the fencing wire had attached to the body, put in a new piece of wire and Bingo! no more free-wheeling.

Maybe some knowledgeable person can now tell me a bit about that model BSA.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yup, B.S.A. Scout, the four cylinder side valve fitted to this model is very similar to the Coventry Climax. The engine, gearbox and diff are fitted in reverse so to speak, because it's front wheel drive. Removal the engine starts with taking off the front wheels, & taking out the drive shafts. The gearbox and diff can be removed in one lump. The starting handle turns the engine through the gearbox so there is 4 compressions per turn of the handle. I had a three-wheeler once and I might add that it was the worst car I have ever had the misfortune to own. Not sure if the Scout ever had the V twin engine fitted as standard. The bonnet louves are on a raised panel if a V twin is fitted.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's one that has one or two modern add-ons.




The gear lever is an incredible affair that sits between the driver's legs and circumnavigates round the offside of the engine to get to the gearbox.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cant help with info on that BSA but here's one my uncle did a few mod's to.

http://www.theaccelerationarchive.co.uk/john/woolfe_01.html
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 9:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DM wrote:
Cant help with info on that BSA but here's one my uncle did a few mod's to.

http://www.theaccelerationarchive.co.uk/john/woolfe_01.html


Hi

Thats quite an interesting site, will have to have a better look, half way though looking for some parts just now.

Rick, there is a large transporter on that page!

Cheers

Dave
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 10:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks for the prompt buzzy, that transporter was recently restored and featuring in Classic & Sportscar a couple of months back

cheers, R
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Is that the one you showed me in Nantwich, when you saw me on the PF?

Cheers

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 2:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh yeah, I'd forgotten about that gearlever between the legs. 3 speed box, so reverse is where first would be on a normal 4 speed box.What fun I had when setting off after absent-mindedly putting it into reverse thinking it was first.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

One for sale here:-

http://www.thegallerybrummen.nl/en/collection/

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 11:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have seen a BSA car at the shows at Selkirk and Glamis Castle.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is a Bsa scout front wheel drive made by the bsa small arms co , all cars in the 30's were made at the daimler factory in coventry as Bsa brought the daimler car co in 1911 and also the lanchester car co in 1931, i have owned three bsa car the three wheeler v-twin hogkiss design 1021 cc and the four cylinder with the daimler fluid fly wheel and a 1923 11 hp bsa with a daimler sleeve valve engine your car is a four cylinder 1203 side valve . the bsa was a multi manufacturing multi national company they made guns,cycles, cars, lorrys,motor cycles , radio sets, printing presses, grinding wheels pots, pans K F S just to mention a few
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 7:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is a Bsa scout front wheel drive made by the bsa small arms co , all cars in the 30's were made at the daimler factory in coventry as Bsa brought the daimler car co in 1911 and also the lanchester car co in 1931, i have owned three bsa car the three wheeler v-twin hogkiss design 1021 cc and the four cylinder with the daimler fluid fly wheel and a 1923 11 hp bsa with a daimler sleeve valve engine your car is a four cylinder 1203 side valve . the bsa was a multi manufacturing multi national company they made guns,cycles, cars, lorrys,motor cycles , radio sets, printing presses, grinding wheels pots, pans K F S just to mention a few
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 8:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Only the rear wheel drive cars were built at Daimlers factory.

The front wheel drive cars were all designed and built at Small Heath under the direction of Fred Hulse.

I notice the car pictured has odd wheels, wire on one side and later all steel wheels on the other side.

I own two BSA cars one 1932 Trike and a 1931 four wheeled aircooled car undergoing a rebuild.

I have just gone on a hundred and thirty mile rally with the Trike, only problem, brake fade down hills in Wales. She climbs very well for her age.

I see I have been driving her since 1973 and have travelled far and wide.

Of course a vehicle this age needs constant fettling, greasing, oiling and minor adjustments.

Regards Kels.
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