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Uncle Joe · Guest

I have decided that it is time to pension off my old spray gun, and get a nice new one. I already have a thought as to which one to buy, but thought that I would see what you others use or recommend.

Well, lets have your ideas!

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Uncle Joe · Guest

Its a Devilbiss that I am replacing! I have been pleased with it (over the last 30-odd years!) but it does use a lot of air!

Any more suggestions?

ukdave2002 · Joined: 23 Nov 2007 Posts: 4124 Location: South Cheshire

I bought a relatively cheap gravity fed gun from machine mart, after some consultation on this forum and painted a Morris (you can see the results on this forum) with it last year .
link to the gun http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/product/details/pgf18-gravity-fed-pro-spray-gun

It’s a unit made in China, probably wouldn’t last like a Devilbiss, however it will only get used a coupe of times a year and I’m not a good enough painter to appreciate or use some of the better qualities that a Devilbiss gun would offer.

It was a change for me moving to a gravity fed gun, but didn’t take long to get used to and was easy to use and set up. The biggest draw back was not being able to put it down Confused

, so I made a simple stand.

Dave

Uncle Joe · Guest

UK, thanks for reminding me about the chinese guns! I now remeber reading about one that was cheap, but fully capable of matching top quality guns, such as SATA...Now then, who made that?

Must have a look for the old topic..... Shocked

bob2 · Joined: 06 Dec 2007 Posts: 1727 Location: Malta

does the gravity fed one like the one UKdave posted need less air?

Uncle Joe · Guest

I just had a quick look on Iwatas home page to answer this. Their gravity feed W400 uses 9.9 to 12.7 cfm, depending on model.

Their suction feed uses 11.7 to 12.7 cfm. so i suppose the correct answer is it depends on the model. Very Happy

bob2 · Joined: 06 Dec 2007 Posts: 1727 Location: Malta

which one would be best for a beginner?
I am spraying only small things like wheels, petrol tank, top covers and so on.
Will have to buy a compreesor also but do not want a big one, what size would be best?

Uncle Joe · Guest

Bob2, these are difficult questions to answer.

As far as a spray gun goes, if you dont plan on doing much spraying, then go for one of the chinese guns, as UK suggests. Some of them are beginning to get a good reputation for quality. If you are planning to do a lot, then look for a better quality gun.

For compressors, a lot depends on what electricity supply you have, single or three phase, as well as if you are going to use it for anything else in the future. I use one of two. A 3 phase 650l/m (23,1cfm) at 6 bar in the workshop for most things, spraying/cutting/grinding and then a small single phase 98l/m which will only just cope with my sewing machines, and definately not a spray gun....

Penman · Joined: 23 Nov 2007 Posts: 4765 Location: Swindon, Wilts.

Hi
If you are only doing smallish items, I wonder whether the ones model makers use would do.

Some of the model aircraft wings could have as much area as a fuel tank.

Uncle Joe · Guest

If you are referring to airbrushes, then they arent really suitable for items such as wheels. As far as sprayguns go, then look at the following chart from Iwata. Air consumtion really depends on air cap size.

bob2 · Joined: 06 Dec 2007 Posts: 1727 Location: Malta

To say the truth I dont know what I might be doing in the future !!
However I do not have 3 phase only single phase!!
Which compressor would be best then?

Sometimes I also like to work with wood and was thinking of spraying them since till now I have always brushed the varnish on, so what I buy will also be used for this purpose.

Uncle Joe · Guest

I'd really like to read some opinions from others on this, but my advice would be to get the compressor with the most capacity and largest air tank you can afford that will work on your electricity supply.

For spray guns, check out the following link. Theres a lot of good information on the site.

http://www.spraygunworld.com/

Rick · Site Admin Joined: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 22472 Location: UK

Uncle Joe · Guest

One thing about spray guns is the fact that you must know what kind of paint is going to be used, 2K or Water Based. At least one major paint manufacturer is recommending that only HVLP guns be used with water based paints. Whether we like it or not, WBP's are going to be the future, so its a bit pointless to buy a gun that cant be used with them.