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Ray White
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I have spent some time this afternoon trying to get the steering wheel boss to go onto the shaft. It seems to have been pinched in the middle so will only allow the splines to pass each other for about an inch; then it stops.
I have tried forcing the slot to open up a bit but so far no luck. I suppose I should send it back again before I make a mess of it. |
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ukdave2002
Joined: 23 Nov 2007
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Location: South Cheshire
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| Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2025 8:45 am Post subject: |
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| Heat is probably your best option, wait until we have a cold day, put the boss in the oven, hopefully with the column cold and the boss hot you will then have enough clearance to fit. |
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Ray White
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| Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2025 11:24 am Post subject: |
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| ukdave2002 wrote: | | Heat is probably your best option, wait until we have a cold day, put the boss in the oven, hopefully with the column cold and the boss hot you will then have enough clearance to fit. |
What worries me about that is if the boss shrinks onto the shaft it would never come off again! I will also need to have some for and aft adjustment of the steering wheel. |
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Ray White
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| Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2025 7:53 pm Post subject: |
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Having spoken with the the very helpful Melvyn Rutter again today, I shall be returning the boss to him. The one I received was a new replacement and it seems like it is just 'Sods Law' that it is too tight for the shaft. This problem is something of a mystery to Melvyn who is naturally concerned that he may have a bad batch in his stock.!
Melvyn Rutter, of course, is a Morgan Main Agent. I would imagine - if my experience is typical - that his customers are well satisfied with the level of service on offer.
I can't help thinking...perhaps I should have bought a Morgan!  |
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alastairq
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Location: East Yorkshire
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| Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2025 8:36 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | I can't help thinking...perhaps I should have bought a Morgan! Razz |
Indeed! I am with you on that one.....
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Ray White
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| Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2025 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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| alastairq wrote: | | Quote: | | I can't help thinking...perhaps I should have bought a Morgan! Razz |
Indeed! I am with you on that one..... |
One enduring memory I have is seeing the launch of the Morgan Plus 8 at the Earls Court Motor Show in 1968. I went with my Dad who also liked the brilliant orange "star of the show", but was much more interested in the new Jaguar XJ6....
I wish I still had the brochures... |
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ukdave2002
Joined: 23 Nov 2007
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Location: South Cheshire
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| Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2025 8:14 am Post subject: |
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| Ray White wrote: | Having spoken with the the very helpful Melvyn Rutter again today, I shall be returning the boss to him. The one I received was a new replacement and it seems like it is just 'Sods Law' that it is too tight for the shaft. This problem is something of a mystery to Melvyn who is naturally concerned that he may have a bad batch in his stock.!
Melvyn Rutter, of course, is a Morgan Main Agent. I would imagine - if my experience is typical - that his customers are well satisfied with the level of service on offer.
I can't help thinking...perhaps I should have bought a Morgan! |
It does strike me that whilst stainless steel offers an attractive finish, it's a far less ductile material than the original aluminium boss, so is going to require significantly more force to clamp tight. Is there a fundamental design flaw here? Or is the stainless boss made to be a tighter initial fit so there is less movement required to fit? |
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Ray White
Joined: 02 Dec 2014
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Location: Derby
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| Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2025 10:25 am Post subject: |
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| ukdave2002 wrote: | | Ray White wrote: | Having spoken with the the very helpful Melvyn Rutter again today, I shall be returning the boss to him. The one I received was a new replacement and it seems like it is just 'Sods Law' that it is too tight for the shaft. This problem is something of a mystery to Melvyn who is naturally concerned that he may have a bad batch in his stock.!
Melvyn Rutter, of course, is a Morgan Main Agent. I would imagine - if my experience is typical - that his customers are well satisfied with the level of service on offer.
I can't help thinking...perhaps I should have bought a Morgan! |
It does strike me that whilst stainless steel offers an attractive finish, it's a far less ductile material than the original aluminium boss, so is going to require significantly more force to clamp tight. Is there a fundamental design flaw here? Or is the stainless boss made to be a tighter initial fit so there is less movement required to fit? |
I am sorry if I have been misleading. The boss is made from a highly polished aluminium casting; not stainless steel. The concern that the supplier has is that he may have a problem with his stock. Either the bosses that they sell are too loose or too tight.
The problem I have is that the original (1949) boss will not fit my new steering wheel. The original wheel looks rubbish but may be all I can use.
I have packed up the boss and will be returning it to Melvyn Rutter. Hopefully he will have an engineering solution for the problem.
The only thought I had would be to drill and tap a "loose" boss and fit a grub screw ( or a chrome headed bolt) that would tighten onto a flat filed onto the splines.?
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