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Cheltenham Caravan - paint advice
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 4:53 pm    Post subject: Cheltenham Caravan - paint advice Reply with quote

As the new, proud but inexperienced owner of a Cheltenham Waterbuck which is in need of a bit of TLC, I'm in need of advice on paint -
Primer? Coach paint? What sort? Brush, spray or roller? Tips on preparation, approach and application? Cheltenhams have both aluminium panelling and fibreglass ends/ roofs.. HELP
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll move this to the caravan section as you're more likely to get caravan-relevant advice in there.

Welcome along Smile

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just regard it as a large car and paint accordingly. Once surface is prepared, just spray it as normal. If you have exposed aluminium or fibreglass, a quick etch primer coat is all you need. My Sable was painted in 2 pack and you can see the result on the previous thread. If you can't do 2 pack, the cellulose will do a splendid job and even if the finish is not perfect, you can work on it once hard to make it so.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 9:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks - it'll have to be done on our driveway so I'm not sure how practical it'll be to spray though I'll look into it - and sorry, which thread was that?.. I read somewhere that coach paint was better suited because of the flex in the frame and panels, car panels being relatively stiff? Has anyone had experience of using Tekaloid or similar? Or cellulose?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 10:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

An alternative is "Tinkers' Paint" - 3 parts liquid gloss paint to 1 part yacht varnish, applied using a foam roller. Preparation is all important.

More info here - http://www.thomson-caravans.co.uk/advice/diyprojects/caravanpainting.htm
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 1:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Much appreciated, that's a useful link!

I've had some advice from a bloke at my work that ideally the fibreglass and aluminium sections should be treated differently (since they expand/ flex differently with heat, etc.), but that view doesn't seem to be borne out by the other information I've found.

This was also of interest:
http://coachpainting.info/

Has anyone else taken the foam roller/ brush approach?

thanks
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 9:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

where the aluminium is bare be sure to etch prime it first before putting any other paint on it, otherwise the paint will peel off eventually!!
And I'd second that both surfaces need to be treated differently but in the end you can use the same topcoat without any problem!!
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 2:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks again - after further research I came across this link, I'm leaning toward the rollered Rustoleum approach!
http://www.club80-90.co.uk/pages/downloads/tech/paintfor%A350.pdf

..I'll let you know how it works out.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 5:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Elmer wrote:
Thanks again - after further research I came across this link, I'm leaning toward the rollered Rustoleum approach!
http://www.club80-90.co.uk/pages/downloads/tech/paintfor%A350.pdf

..I'll let you know how it works out.


Hmmm. Have you tried this yet? I have read that article, (Well, speed read it!) and it seems like an anormous amount of work to get an acceptable finish. Add into that the size of the Cheltenham and you have many weeks of hard labour! If you want a nice sprayed finish, how about putting in the effort to prepare it, then asking a bodyshop to do a "no comeback" blowover for you? If you choose a RAL colour, the cost can be very reasonable. I think the nearest colour to original though is "Old English White". Certainly that is what mine is done in, but it was painted before I got it.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As someone who likes to restore their cars to a very high standard I hate this term "Blowover" or advertised cars being sold with inferior paintwork and told it just needs the wings blown in.

As someone who restores period properties for a living how would a customer like it if i told them we would just brush a lick of paint over their period drawing room or hallway over flaking paint or visible runs.

It is a waste of good paint to just point a spray gun at an ill prepared panel.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agree totally, which is why in my post, you will read that I recommended that the OP do the prep, then get the bodyshop to do what he can't. Nett result is a good job.

I understand your aversion to the term "blowover" due to its negative connotations, but here, it was a sort of shorthand.

I too despise the bodge artists, more now because I am having to deal with the dire result of one.
Scimitar GTC, resprayed 10 years ago, it said. What he meant was a 2 pack spray job straight over the micro blisters, stress cracks and everything else. I am having to take all the paint off now, down to the gelcoat. Thanks a bunch. Sad
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